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To: Aquinasfan
It's no secret that the church despised Jews. Why do you find it so hard then, to accept that there were indeed those withing the church and its heirarchy that deliberatly kept silent and even thought Hitler was doing something NOBLE!

From the Council of Nicea (325):(excerpted)

It was declared to be particularly unworthy for this, the holiest of all festivals, to follow the custom [the calculation] of the Jews, who had soiled their hands with the most fearful of crimes, and whose minds were blinded.

In rejecting their custom,(1) we may transmit to our descendants the legitimate mode of celebrating Easter, which we have observed from the time of the Saviour's Passion to the present day[according to the day of the week]. We ought not, therefore, to have anything in common with the Jews, for the Saviour has shown us another way; our worship follows a more legitimate and more convenient course(the order of the days of the week); and consequently, in unanimously adopting this mode, we desire, dearest brethren, to separate ourselves from the detestable company of the Jews, for it is truly shameful for us to hear them boast that without their direction we could not keep this feast. How can they be in the right, they who, after the death of the Saviour, have no longer been led by reason but by wild violence, as their delusion may urge them?

They do not possess the truth in this Easter question; for, in their blindness and repugnance to all improvements, they frequently celebrate two passovers in the same year. We could not imitate those who are openly in error. How, then, could we follow these Jews, who are most certainly blinded by error? for to celebrate the passover twice in one year is totally inadmissible. But even if this were not so, it would still be your duty not to tarnish your soul by communications with such wicked people[the Jews].

That's why the church needed to change the calendar, needed to do away with the Sabbath and started Sun-day worship, in 'honor of the venerable Sun'. Why they needed to distance themselves from Passover and celebrate Easter, a name derived from the pagan godess of fertility, widely known at the time.

The church has done nearly all it could to distance themselves from the root that they 'claim' to be grafted unto. Yet, it resembles nothing of the root anymore.

30 posted on 10/10/2003 9:39:33 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Proverbs 6:23 -- For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; . . . the way of life)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Why do you find it so hard then, to accept that there were indeed those withing the church and its heirarchy that deliberatly kept silent and even thought Hitler was doing something NOBLE!

There probably were members of the Church hierarchy that deliberately kept silent. That's lamentable, but what does that prove? Catholics don't claim impeccability for any clergy person, even the pope. Certainly non-Catholic Christians are also sinful. Just as many or more Protestant clergy capitulated in the face of Nazi persecution. That's no reason to condemn the teachings of Protestantism per se. Finally, as the NY Times and Albert Einstein attest, the pope was the lone voice speaking out against the Nazis during the early years of the war.

I doubt that any significant number of clergy thought that Hitler was doing something noble. That's a bit of stretch, to say the least. You should have some evidence of that before you slander people, and then extrapolate from that to smear the entire clergy. Slander is a sin.

31 posted on 10/10/2003 10:31:40 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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