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To: Catholicguy
You can worship any way you like. I'm saying that the Holy Spirit can do what He likes in our services. We all need to be open to that.

I, of course, do not believe the Catholic church is the one true church as you believe. I don't believe Peter was the first Pope. Yes, Jesus said upon this rock I will build my church but nowhere in scripture do I find that Peter was the first Pope of the Catholic church. But, I digress. At this point, it doesn't matter. Everyone has a right to worship the way they wish. We all just need to be aware of the move of the Holy Spirit in our services.
747 posted on 09/24/2003 6:16:32 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Marysecretary
The Holy Spirit works through the competent authorities, especially through those with Divinely-constituted authority, i.e. the Pope, so our Worship of the One True God is in spirit and truth and free from spontaneity which, we Catholics believe, is the antithesis of worship. Our worship is based upon the Last Supper, which, was solemn, regulated, and well-ordered and during which time no Apostle began to yell, clap, bang drums, or dance. The Pasch was well-regulated.

But, I am glad you recognise our right to worship as we desire - so why are you repeatedly telling us, on a thread devoted to Catholic Liturgy, about how it is you worship and why we must listen to thus and such which you, absent objective evidence, insist is of the Holy Spirit?

750 posted on 09/24/2003 6:46:07 AM PDT by Catholicguy (Protestant in deed. Catholic in word. They call it "Tradtion." Ain't you yet heard?)
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To: Marysecretary
Yes, Jesus said upon this rock I will build my church but nowhere in scripture do I find that Peter was the first Pope of the Catholic church.

See the three passages listed in my tagline below.

The passage from Isaiah is a reference to the historical office of the vice-king of the Davidic kingdom. The office was represented by a key which the vice-king kept in a pouch worn around his neck.

In Revelation we see that Jesus holds the "key of the House of David," that is, he is the "power behind the key," since He is the eternal King of the House of David.

In Matthew, we see Jesus giving the key of the office of vice-king to Rock (Peter). Jesus establishes the office of his vice-king, "vicar," or "pope."

This is just some of the Scriptural evidence of the papacy. There is also overwhelming patristic and historical evidence.

763 posted on 09/24/2003 7:39:27 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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