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To: dangus; Texas_Dawg
Some God you have, who would create people for the sole purpose of watching them suffer, forever tormenting them in Hell, just so he could impress his chosen few with what a great guy he is! (Or do you hold that Satan created the sould afflicted with a lack of grace?) ~ dangus Woody.

You Might Be an Arminian If....

You think that "Calvinism" is arrogant for saying that God elects some and not others, but you think you are really humble for saying that God elected you because He knew you'd think He was a pretty swell dude for offering you a life preserver even though you were only in the shallow end of the pool anyway, and that in your niceness, you'd accept His offer of your own "free will".
86 posted on 09/08/2003 10:54:26 AM PDT by CCWoody (Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
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To: CCWoody
I choose:

3. God perfectly knew that ALL men were sinners, and ALL men would reject him, yet he created Man anyway, and then sent his only Son to them so that his Son would save ALL men.

See, I am forbidden by God to presume apon his mercy, so I must work out my own salvation in fear and trembling. At the same time, I am commanded to forgive EVERYONE and judge no-one, in the confidence that Jesus calls ANYONE to him.

Even though I know of my salvation, I must hate my sin, with perfect contrition (repentence for the sake of hating sin, rather than out of fear).

There is a logical trap to the question of whether we are saved or not, that requires a third condition: Partly saved, partly in sin. Souls in this state go to purgatory. And the only reason you don't have prugatory in your bible is that you followed Martin Luther in desecrating God's Word. (The Jews removed passages they didn't like in the Council fo Jamnia, in AD 90, after the gospels were written. Luther followed the reasoning of the Jews, and not the Christians whem he removed 7 1/2 books from the bible.)
98 posted on 09/08/2003 11:21:47 AM PDT by dangus
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