[dangus]

I choose:

3. God perfectly knew that ALL men were sinners, and ALL men would reject him, yet he created Man anyway, and then sent his only Son to them so that his Son would save ALL men.

See, I am forbidden by God to presume apon his mercy, so I must work out my own salvation in fear and trembling. At the same time, I am commanded to forgive EVERYONE and judge no-one, in the confidence that Jesus calls ANYONE to him.

Even though I know of my salvation, I must hate my sin, with perfect contrition (repentence for the sake of hating sin, rather than out of fear).

There is a logical trap to the question of whether we are saved or not, that requires a third condition: Partly saved, partly in sin. Souls in this state go to purgatory. And the only reason you don't have prugatory in your bible is that you followed Martin Luther in desecrating God's Word. (The Jews removed passages they didn't like in the Council fo Jamnia, in AD 90, after the gospels were written. Luther followed the reasoning of the Jews, and not the Christians whem he removed 7 1/2 books from the bible.)

[Frumanchu]

There is a logical trap to the question of whether we are saved or not, that requires a third condition: Partly saved, partly in sin. Souls in this state go to purgatory. And the only reason you don't have prugatory in your bible is that you followed Martin Luther in desecrating God's Word. (The Jews removed passages they didn't like in the Council fo Jamnia, in AD 90, after the gospels were written. Luther followed the reasoning of the Jews, and not the Christians whem he removed 7 1/2 books from the bible.)

LOL! A logical trap indeed.

I'll lump that under the same heading as 'partly dead' and 'partly pregnant.'

[drstevej]

***so I must work out my own salvation in fear and trembling.***

Work out NOT work for.

The salvation referred to in this verse is not justification, but sanctification. It is deliverance from the power of sin not deliverence from the penalty of sin.

Ro. 8:1,32

[ksen]

...then sent his only Son to them so that his Son would save ALL men.

Is Universalism the current teaching of the RCC?

[RnMomof7]

See, I am forbidden by God to presume apon his mercy, so I must work out my own salvation in fear and trembling. At the same time, I am commanded to forgive EVERYONE and judge no-one, in the confidence that Jesus calls ANYONE to him.

This is the most common misuse of scripture

    Phl 2:12   Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

So how does a man do that ? The next verse tells us

     Phl 2:13   For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure

So it is God that does the work that are necessary for your salvation and the works that flow from it

Paul also addressed this in Hebrews

Hbr 13:21   Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom [be] glory for ever and ever. Amen.

And Ephesians

Eph 2:10   For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

[CCWoody]

3. God perfectly knew that ALL men were sinners, and ALL men would reject him, yet he created Man anyway, and then sent his only Son to them so that his Son would save ALL men. ~ dangus

Ahhh, I see. You are a Universalist heretic. I feel obliged to warn you the Anathema of the Book of Revelation applies to your heresy. If you deny the prophecies of that book to your dying day, then you will burn forever in the Lake of Fire. And those prophecies specifically declare to us that there will be men who will be cast into the Lake of Fire, where they will be tormented into the presence of the Lord and His angels forever.

There, my conscience is clear. Your blood is on your own head.

Woody.

You might be an Arminian if....

You think Calvinists are wicked for warning people of the dangers of their own sins and the consequences of not repenting, but you are a swell dude for simply luving everyone everywhere all the time.