[xzins]

Rn, I'm a UM.

I don't affirm everything in their articles of religion or their doctrinal history and traditions.

There is transition taking place in the AOG regarding the necessity of "tongues evidence." Since it is BIBLICALLY TRUE that tongues is not required as evidence, then we can only say that that entire denomination is changing, AND we can say that the written documents of a denomination sometimes don't keep pace with the theology of its people.

It's not deceptive. It's growth and Christians are subject to it.

Otherwise, you are wrong to switch from one belief to another regarding calvinism. You were a member of your previous church, weren't you? There's no affirmation made by a pastor that isn't made by a member.

[drstevej]

Does the UMC have articles of religion or just some suggestions in a three ring binder?

Think and let think, ya know.

[RnMomof7]

Since it is BIBLICALLY TRUE that tongues is not required as evidence, then we can only say that that entire denomination is changing, AND we can say that the written documents of a denomination sometimes don't keep pace with the theology of its people.

Do they or do they not say that these are NON negotiable tenets   ?

They CLEARLY state that , no waffle on it .

YOU may say that there is no biblical evidence of it..but obviously they think there is . Seeing you are not one of the leaders of the AOG , I think what you think is unimportant . They clearly state their position lest there be any mistake. Unlike some people that are ashamed of the doctrine they are not.

On the day they change that part of the doctrine then having a pastor that does not believe the doctrine has a place in the church . Until that having a renegade church is not the desire of the leaders .

Xzins what if the pastor said that God had a body , and he taught that in the church ..could he be a UM? Perhaps the UM is just behind the curve..

It's not deceptive. It's growth and Christians are subject to it.

Spoken like a true liberal..There is no absolute truth ..all truth is decided by people . Maybe we can all "grow into" gay marriage and abortion rights..we really have to get with it..

Otherwise, you are wrong to switch from one belief to another regarding calvinism. You were a member of your previous church, weren't you? There's no affirmation made by a pastor that isn't made by a member

Quite the opposite..IF I had stayed there and taught Calvinism in the Sunday school in opposition to the doctrines of the church I would have been out of order , just like the pastor that denies the authority and tenets of his church.