To: Gamecock
***Him that calleth, not their own choice??***
I see no contradiction between the choices you present as in opposition.
***God can do what he wants, He is God***
But of course. But he WANTS to give us free will so he CHOOSES to delay his almighty power.
***God can do what he wants, He is God***
Yes, I cannot save myself; I can only choose to receive grace.
***God created Pharoah for the purpose of displaying His power?***
Yes, but Pharoah could not have known Christ. He is not guilty, therefore, of rejecting Christ. I do not know the state of his soul, do you?
***God made people for his Glory, to carry out his will, didn't you say this isn't in here?***
No, I didn't. But I did say you read one thing, and believe it says something else. I never said God didn't create us for his own Glory. In fact, the first line of the Baltimore Catechism is "Why did God create me? To Give Glory and Praise to God." Are sentence meanings so indiscriminate to you that you cannot tell the difference? What I said was: "God didn't create people, just so he could destroy them and torment them forever in hell."
I'm trying to see what logical leap you made, but it seems like you've equated "giving glory to God" with "eternal torment"!
156 posted on
09/08/2003 1:47:56 PM PDT by
dangus
To: dangus
But of course. But he WANTS to give us free will so he CHOOSES to delay his almighty power. Chapter and verse, please.
***God created Pharoah for the purpose of displaying His power?*** Yes, but Pharoah could not have known Christ. He is not guilty, therefore, of rejecting Christ. I do not know the state of his soul, do you?
And there you have it, folks. Salvation apart from Christ. Salvation by ignorance.
What I said was: "God didn't create people, just so he could destroy them and torment them forever in hell."
I'm trying to see what logical leap you made, but it seems like you've equated "giving glory to God" with "eternal torment"!
Already addressed, dangus. We have never said that God creates people for the express purpose of tormenting them in hell. You've attributed this to us when we do not hold to this at all. It seems to me that you are the one making the logical leap here.
158 posted on
09/08/2003 1:52:54 PM PDT by
Frumanchu
(mene mene tekel upharsin)
To: dangus
Ahhhh, the dangers of building a doctrin out of isolated verses and not reading the entire passage....
167 posted on
09/08/2003 2:21:52 PM PDT by
Gamecock
(Why TULIP? Because the Bible teaches it as the inspired word of The One Holy Sovereign God!)
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