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Whilst you're at it, take a look at the taglines for Woody and nobdysfool. ~ CS

You sure do moan and wail a lot. Woody.

P.S. You aren't even close to grasping my point in #115. And, it ain't "My Jesus is better than your Jesus." You want it to be this so you can dismiss my argument. But, its not.

Arminianism really has created for itself an irreconcilable problem when they assert that it is God's expressed will and desire to save all men. After all, you can't even honestly address this scripture verse from that construct:

And He said unto them, "To you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all things are done in parables, that they seeing, may see, and not discern: and they hearing, may hear, and not understand, least at any time they should turn, and their sins should be forgiven them."
(Mar 4:11-12 GB)

Clearly the Lord Jesus Himself has declared to speak in parables so that a great many people will not discern or understand. You would think that if the Lord Jesus really desired their salvation He would have spoken plainly to them so that they could understand and at least have the opportunity to repent of their sins. Arminianism has no answer to how God could purpose and desire their salvation, while at the same time deny them the means of that salvation. It has essentially turned God into a kind of Pharoah, who said (essentially): "Let them build bricks without straw."

And, this you are not allowed to do. You cannot set the Father to war with the Son over Election for when you do, you...

deny the ontological NAME of God. Whereas God has declared to us "I am that I am," meaning that "I am what I have been" and "I will be what I am," you are declaring that God is not even faithful to Himself. This is a fundamental denial of the Most High Himself. It's like saying, "Well, the Father is faithful and true to the Godhead and the Holy Spirit is faithful and true to the Godhead, but that bratty Son is just out there thwarting the will of God."

So, you are free to engage on your "seagull attacks" if you must. But, don't pretend you actually understand the point I am making. You ain't even in the ballpark of being able to argue scripture with us.

Arminianism really has created for itself an irreconcilable problem when they assert that it is God's expressed will and desire to save all men.

I think the Arminianist would say instead that it is God's Will that all men be saved, not that He would save everybody.

As for Mark 4 I'll need to look but that may have to do with His mission at the time. He was preaching the Messianic Kingdom to Israel and so He spoke to them in parables so that they would not accept Him yet and so usher in the Kingdom. He spoke to them in parables so they would reject Him and He would die at the hands of the Romans.

However, that argument gets us back to our Eschatological differences so it probably won't be fruitful to go down that road.

"Arminianism really has created for itself an irreconcilable problem when they assert that it is God's expressed will and desire to save all men."

Ahem!!!!! AGAIN: For God so love the WORLD, that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth on Him shall not perish, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. God sent not His Son into the WORLD to condemn the WORLD, but that the WORLD THROUGH HIM MIGHT BE SAVED.

That blows your religion out of the water.