It’s not your mother’s Catholic Church

Catholic Chronicle ^ | July 4, 2003 | PAT TODAK

[NYer]

She remembers adult Catholics being encouraged to carry a card with them that said, “In case of an accident, please call a priest.”

Here in New York, catholics will have to resume this practice. The new Privacy Act, prevents hospitals from asking patients their religious affiliation. It is up to the patient to request a priest.

For those who arrive unconscious, knocking at death's door, they should be equipped with a card with the above words.

[NYer]

“It was fairly common for the first-born girl to be named after the Blessed Virgin,” she says.

At my grandmother's baptism, the priest asked the parents what name they had chosen. They responded Rita Marie. He baptised her Marie Rita.

[Pyro7480]

I think you're inviting a lot of discussion with this article ;-)

[Coleus]

Oh, for the good old days, I wish I was a part of it...>>

Here in New York, catholics will have to resume this practice. The new Privacy Act, prevents hospitals from asking patients their religious affiliation. It is up to the patient to request a priest.

For those who arrive unconscious, knocking at death's door, they should be equipped with a card with the above words.>>>

Great idea, I will write my bishop about it and tell my pastor. A couple of weeks ago, I was standing next to my pastor when a hospital employee came up to him and said, "you know, so and so is in the hospital" he said thanks but he can't do anything unless the family calls and requests him to come.

What happens to the people who have no families in the area? Suppose you are on a trip or at college or anywhere in America on death's door and you need a priest? I'm surprised W supported such a law. Clinton wins again.

[katnip]

In our little neighborhood in Queens, there was a fish store that was only open on Fridays.

They sold raw fish or if you liked, the Italian lady who spoke no english would bread and fry the flounder and give you a bag of fried potatoes with it. Yummm....

[Dusty Rose]

Fish on Friday. We hear a lot nowdays about eating more fish for our health. Perhaps it would be a good idea for many of us to eat fish once a week, for our physical as well as our spiritual health.

[Loyalist]

PING.

Aren't you all happy that we can hold hands at the Our Father and sing Kumbaya?

You aren't?

Then what's wrong with you?

[Sneer]

I think you are right about the many responses that can be made to this post. I would like to make just one. In February of the year 1966, Pope Paul VI promulgated an Apostolic Constitution (17 Feb. 1966) entitled Paenitemini in which he said that the law of the Church still says to abstain from meat on every Friday throughout the year.
However, he gave permission to go against the letter of the law if the conference of bishops of a particular country petitioned the Holy See, the Pope, for permission for their people to do another penance on Friday in place of not eating meat. So, in those countries whose bishops have gone through the channels to petition the Pope for permission to substitute another penance instead of not eating meat on Friday, those individuals in those countries can substitute another penance.
But what you have not been told, and no one seems to know, is that you still have the obligation to do another penance on that Friday and you are still bound under pain of mortal sin.

[Thorondir]

Right! After all, we are all copper wires and the prayer itself is an electrical current. That's why we have to do it that way. Otherwise it doesn't work.

Right?

[Loyalist]

I have seen the Church evolve from the serious, less accepting, fire and brimstone institution of my mother’s era to the embracing, forgiving, gentler, more lay-involved and inclusive environment of today. There is no question that I am very happy to be worshipping at this point on the Church’s timeline.

Embracing of evil, forgiving without repentance, gentle with effeminacy and moral flabbiness. If you're happy with it, then you have a lot you shouldn't be happy about.

[Thorondir]

You aren't kidding, my friend, but the libomodernist's eyes are not capable of seeing the truth.

A liberal is someone so open-minded that his brain fell out.

[redhead]

"For those who arrive unconscious, knocking at death's door, they should be equipped with a card with the above words.

In the good old days, anything that could be worn around the neck or carried in a pocket seemed to have "I AM A CATHOLIC. IN CASE OF AN ACCIDENT, PLEASE CALL A PRIEST."

[Litany]

I loved 40 hours procession.

[B Knotts]

The requirement for some kind of abstinence on Fridays year round is actually still in effect. Many people don't realize this.

For simplification, I've simply adopted the old fish on Fridays tradition all year long. And, yes, health-wise, it's a good idea as well.

[Salvation]

**It is up to the patient to request a priest.**

In Oregon this is true also.

[ultima ratio]

This article is so much hogwash. It is not true that children learn more about the faith today. In fact, there is a crisis of catechesis worldwide. It is ridiculous to say devotions were "nicer" back then or are more "user-friendly" than was the preconciliar Church. The test for user-friendliness is whether souls are being saved, not whether things are "nicer". If niceness is the measure, let's all become Quakers, for heaven's sake. The truth is, the Conciliar Church has been awash in a sea of corruption for forty years--and this is a pretty crappy reality and incredibly un-nice. Priests are less, not more, accessible, and they are less, not more, devout, and the sacraments are less, not more, accessible today, and so on down the line with every measure of spiritual well-being. As a result of a cataclysmic ecclesiastical decline, souls are universally in more, not less, danger of being lost, no matter how much bullhockey emanates from Rome these days. The entire article is the sheerest pollyanna-ish propaganda.

[sinkspur]

But what you have not been told, and no one seems to know, is that you still have the obligation to do another penance on that Friday and you are still bound under pain of mortal sin.

Mortal sin? If you'll provide a reference, I'll believe you.

[NYer]

They sold raw fish or if you liked, the Italian lady who spoke no english would bread and fry the flounder and give you a bag of fried potatoes with it. Yummm....

Lol!!! I once met an Italian lady who could not pronounce the word "shrimp". It always came out "skrimp". I'll never forget the one Easter when she went to local butch(er) (she always stopped after the butch) and ordered 'baby lamb' for Easter dinner. When she went to pick it up, he handed her a nice young leg of lamb. She handed it back, saying: " This is the great grandfather of the lamb I ordered.".

I also grew up in Queens ... which part of Queens had this fish market?

[NYer]

But what you have not been told, and no one seems to know, is that you still have the obligation to do another penance on that Friday and you are still bound under pain of mortal sin.

An excellent point! And you are absolutely right. This message has been lost to many catholics over the years. Recently, another freeper brought this to our attention. Self-denial is good for the body, while penance works "miracles" on the soul As Dusty Rose noted, "Perhaps it would be a good idea for many of us to eat fish once a week, for our physical as well as our spiritual health."

Ever since Hermann the Cherusker brought this to our attention, I have switched back to meatless Fridays. This can't be right 'cause it actually feels good. Let's get the word out .... Vatican Council II sought a greater participation by the laity. "Start spreading the new!"

[NYer]

This article is so much hogwash.

I was wondering how long it would take before you showed up ... just under 3 hours ... definitely not record setting. Try again?

The truth is, the Conciliar Church has been awash in a sea of corruption for forty years

And the solution is ........ to join the SSPX! Did you ever make your Confirmation? What happened to your participation in the church militant? So many innocent catholics have been led astray. Why are you not fighting alongside of us? Fight or flee! Oh, I forgot .... when challenged, flee. To heck with the other catholics, you need to safeguard your own soul and those of your family.