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To: drstevej; sinkspur
Interesting thread,the dwindling dialogue on religious threads should be a concern to all posters who are seeking to learn,convince,debate and/or inform others on matters concerning religion.

I am a Catholic,in union with the Pope and Magisterium,as defined by Tradition and grounded in Scripture.I have not attended the Tridentine mass in my diocese because the bishop has not permitted it and the Pope gives him the authority to allow or not to allow it.

I have taken issue with Sinkspur many times when he drops a line that has come to be accepted as if it were a "truth" or a "fact" but is not. In April,I said "Sinkspur says he is Catholic but he is not;he lies."

I thought it might kick off an interesting conversation on what it means to be Catholic and why it is wrong to claim to be what one cannot be,given the definition.I have been trying to connect it with the Letters to the Churches in Revelations:chaps:2 and 3.

This is what Sinkspur,who so bemoans the lack of Catholic posters who support the NO mass,and the rest of the post-Vatican worldview,posted to me on April 24,2003. "Your gibberish and mindless meanderings may impress some on this forum but they are at bottom your attempt to appear informed when you are clueless.-------You are a very good woman,but you are in over your head in theology and politics."

This was just the last in a series of like remarks,of course,I was so happy he called me a "good woman". I am sure that remark was to demonstrate the charity and compassion and pastoral care that he and his ilk are so proud they possess. Actually,the fact that I even post anymore probably proves his point,I guess,I am just too stupid and thick headed to know how clueless I am.

126 posted on 05/19/2003 11:35:48 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: saradippity
Sinkspur says he is Catholic but he is not;he lies."

Sara, don't play the victim when you say things like this about other Catholics.

127 posted on 05/19/2003 11:42:08 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: saradippity; sinkspur; Salvation
Actually,the fact that I even post anymore probably proves his point,I guess,I am just too stupid and thick headed to know how clueless I am.

Ha, ha. Sinky can be vicious but at the same time, he can't stand it when someone else pokes him in the eye. I think I got called an "annoying little twerp" and other things much worse by him once. It doesn't bother me, though, and that's the key. In a forum such as this, it pays to have a duck's back. If you can't take the flames, don't post. And what's worse, don't post and then whine when people take issue with you.
132 posted on 05/19/2003 12:00:28 PM PDT by Antoninus (Salvation's got it right...)
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To: saradippity
There does seem to be some debate on whether the Novus Ordo is intrinsically flawed or if it is indeed reformable.

This reminds me of the post-Stalin U.S.S.R; was communism intrinsically flawed or was "the cult of personality" (to use Kruschev's phrase) to blame?

Since all are forms of liberalism or "modernism", I would say, probably intrinsically flawed. But of course we ARE human so the same could be said of us.
143 posted on 05/19/2003 12:35:33 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Fides quaerens intellectum.)
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