Oh, puh-lease! You make it all dependent on man's receptiveness, totally ignoring the fact that unregenerate man is NOT receptive to God's message. In your world, it's all about man, and his ability to respond. If man will respond, God will save him...so who's in control here? Sounds to me like man is, in your view. Well, that's WRONG!!! God is in control, He determines, He is the one who has already made the decision. Man, by birth, is unregenerate, and has by default rejected God already. I made this point several times, and you don't want to apply its full implications: That God is totally justified in punishing sin, and that God is totally justified in saving some, and not saving others. You can't handle the implications of that, and want to twist it around to make it somehow unfair of God to exercise His Sovereignty in choosing some and not all. That is your error, you are basically charging God with being arbitrary and unfair, and building a theory that puts man in the driver's seat, makes man the deciding factor in salvation, and by implication, saying that the heathen who never ever heard of Jesus are somehow treated differently than you and I, who have heard about Him since we were old enough to understand words.
The charge to us is to preach the Gospel to every living creature. It is not for us to know who is Elect and who is not, except in retrospect. Those that hear and do not respond, the Gospel stands as a further witness against them, in addition to God's general revelation of Himself in nature. Those that hear and respond, are those whom God has chosen from among the heathen. Those that have never heard the Gospel still have God's general revelation of Himself in nature as a witness against them, so they are without excuse, and rightly sentenced to death for their sin. If you're so worried about the heathen not getting a chance to hear the Gospel, get off your a@@ and take it to them, instead of whining about how it's not fair that they never heard! In a real sense, if they have not heard, it's your fault, not God's!
Scripture please? I read in the Bible, faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God (Rom.10:17), not faith cometh by election
In your world, it's all about man, and his ability to respond. If man will respond, God will save him...so who's in control here? Sounds to me like man is, in your view. Well, that's WRONG!!! God is in control, He determines, He is the one who has already made the decision. Man, by birth, is unregenerate, and has by default rejected God already.
By default rejected God already, when he never had a chance to accept God because God did not elect him and thus, passed him over!
You say that as if it is suppose to make sense.
I made this point several times, and you don't want to apply its full implications: That God is totally justified in punishing sin, and that God is totally justified in saving some, and not saving others.
He is?
Well is God totally justified in putting Adam into sin in the first place, and then saving some of those who are born into that same sin, but sending the rest to hell?
Behind your assertions is the underlying faith that despite the appearance of being unfair, that God (being good) is still doing the right thing (secret will appeal)
However, because God is God, it is stated clearly wants all men saved, not just those whom he has elected (1Tim.4:10)
You can't handle the implications of that, and want to twist it around to make it somehow unfair of God to exercise His Sovereignty in choosing some and not all. That is your error, you are basically charging God with being arbitrary and unfair, and building a theory that puts man in the driver's seat, makes man the deciding factor in salvation, and by implication, saying that the heathen who never ever heard of Jesus are somehow treated differently than you and I, who have heard about Him since we were old enough to understand words.
What does hearing the words since childhood have to do with it?
If you are the elect, God will regenerate you with or without the words, and if are not, all the words in the world will not make a difference.
The charge to us is to preach the Gospel to every living creature. It is not for us to know who is Elect and who is not, except in retrospect. Those that hear and do not respond, the Gospel stands as a further witness against them, in addition to God's general revelation of Himself in nature.
If they don't respond?
And that damns them even more?
They can't respond since God did not choose them!
Those that hear and respond, are those whom God has chosen from among the heathen.
Yes, they were according to Calvinism, chosen as the elect, and respond because they were the chosen, they are not the chosen because they respond (Arminian view)
Those that have never heard the Gospel still have God's general revelation of Himself in nature as a witness against them, so they are without excuse, and rightly sentenced to death for their sin.
Well, that we agree on.
They do not hear the Gospel because God knows they have already rejected Him, not because God rejected them (But Ye would not)
If you're so worried about the heathen not getting a chance to hear the Gospel, get off your a@@ and take it to them, instead of whining about how it's not fair that they never heard! In a real sense, if they have not heard, it's your fault, not God's!
Are you daft? It was you who brought up the issue of the heathen's not me.
It is the Calvinist argument that if the God wants all men to be saved, how is it fair that the 'some have not heard'. As you have just noted above, everyone has an equal chance at salvation, first through natural revelation (Psa.19, Rom.1) and then, if postive at that point, the Gospel itself.