President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision and by the Holy Spirit. . . . it was the will of God that they should be ordained to the ministry and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, for the coming of the Lord, which was nigh — even fifty six years should wind up the scene. (History of the Church, Vol. 2, page 182).
This prophecy was spoken by Joseph Smith in 1835, and recorded by Oliver Cowdery. The fifty-six years were passed by 1891.
President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision fn and by the Holy Spirit. He then gave a relation of some of the circumstances attending while journeying to Zion—our trials, sufferings; and said God had not designed all this for nothing, but He had it in remembrance yet; and it was the will of God that those who went Zion, with a determination to lay down their lives, if necessary, should be ordained to the ministry, and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, [or]*for the coming of the Lord, which was nigh—even fifty-six years should wind up the scene.
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President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision and by the Holy Spirit... He then gave a relation of some of the circumstances attending while journeying to Zion—our trials, sufferings; and said God had not designed all this for nothing, but He had it in remembrance yet; and it was the will of God that those who went Zion, with a determination to lay down their lives, if necessary, [they should be ordained to the ministry and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time,[or the] for the coming of the Lord, which was nigh — even fifty six years should wind up the scene.] (History of the Church, Vol. 2, page 182).
Bold is the part deleted from the statement.
[or]was changed to *for
Underline is your post! and the BOLD is what was missing What a little deletions and changing words among Conrads for "THE END JUSTIFY THE MEANS!"
Very slick A.J.Armitage!
Verily, thus saith the Lord: It is wisdom in my servant David W. Patten, that he settle up all his business as soon as he possibly can, and make a disposition of his merchandise, that he may perform a mission unto me next spring, in company with others, even twelve including himself, to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto the world. (Doctrine & Covenants 114:1)
This prophecy was made on April 17, 1838. David W. Patten died in October of 1838 and thus never went on a mission the following spring.
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Revelation through Joseph Smith, Far West, Missouri, April 17, 1838. History of the Church 3:23.
1 Verily thus saith the Lord: It is wisdom in my servant David W. Patten, that he settle up all his business as soon as he possibly can, and make a disposition of his merchandise, that he MAY perform a mission unto me next spring, in company with others, even twelve including himself, to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto all the world.
(BTW the rest of the Prophecie was omitted)
2 For verily thus saith the Lord, that inasmuch as there are those among you who DENY my name, others shall be PLANTED in their stead and receive their bishopric. Amen. Next 4
The Opertive WORD here is;-
that he MAYperform a mission unto me next spring, in company with others, even twelve including himself, to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto all the world.
For verily thus saith the Lord, that inasmuch as there are those among you who DENY my name, others shall be PLANTED in their stead and receive their bishopric. Amen.
Pardon the pun A.J.Armitage but I see a Pattern here:) Oh well to omit and delete for the cause to support follow Conrads-
"FOR THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS!"
I prophecy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left for their wickedness in permitting the murder of men, women and children, and the wholesale plunder and extermination of thousands of her citizens to go unpunished (History of the Church, Vol. 5, page 394).
Joseph Smith made this prophecy in May 6, 1843. However, the United States Government did not redress any of the wrongs committed against the Mormons in Missouri, and now over 150 years later, the U.S. Government still stands.
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President Smith, in concluding his remarks, said that if the government, which received into its coffers the money of citizens for its public lands, while its officials are rolling in luxury at the expense of its public treasury, cannot protect such citizens in their lives and property, it is an old granny anyhow; and I prophesy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left, for their wickedness in permitting the murder of men, women and children, and the wholesale plunder and extermination of thousands of her citizens to go unpunished, thereby perpetrating a foul and corroding blot upon the fair fame of this great republic, the very thought of which would have caused the high-minded and patriotic framers of the Constitution of the United States to hide their faces with shame. Judge, you will aspire to the presidency of the United States; and if ever you turn your hand against me or the Latter-day Saints, you will feel the weight of the hand of Almighty upon you; and you will live to see and know that I have testified the truth to you; for the conversation of this day will stick to you through life.
BTW agains so much to this prophecy is omitted will it’s the party LINE Conrad A.J.Armitage
”THE END JUSTIFY THE MEANS!”
Funny. I have been a member of the Lord's True Church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, for forty years. I have studied the works you mention in your silly, lying sack-of-**** diatribe, and NOTHING there rings a bell.
Some of them like the building of the temple in Missouri, blatantly ignore history, and other latter-day scriptures, or even that some of these prophecies have not yet come to pass.
Also, you ignore the fact that, despite all the hellish efforts of god-forsaken, Satan-spawned heathens like yourself, murdering, raping and trying your best to destroy it, the latter-day work of TRUTH has only gotten stronger, and that the ultimate prophecy of Joseph Smith--that the Lord is God, that Jesus is the Christ, that the Book of Mormon is true, and that the Church will never be destroyed from off the face of the earth despite the worst efforts of the hell-spawn such as continue to infest these threads--is coming to pass every single day.
Tremble, ye demons of the infernal pit. Rant, rail and spew your lying filth all your can, while you can. Soon you'll be locked away in the infernal pit, and the godly will be rid of you and your devilish deeds forever.
"Persecution has not stopped the progress of truth, but has only added fuel to the flame, it has spread with increasing rapidity. Our missionaries are going forth to different nations...The Standard of Truth has been erected; no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done."The Prophet Joseph Smith
Prophecy # 1 --- The Coming of the Lord
Please see Stephen R. Gibson's "Did Joseph Smith Falsely Prophesy Of Christ's Return?," One-Minute Answers to Anti-Mormon Questions (Bountiful, Utah: Horizon Publishers)? and Malin L. Jacobs"The Alleged Fifty-Six-Year Second-Coming Prophecy of Joseph Smith: An Analysis," (City Unknown: SHIELDS, 13-Jul-97)
Prophecy # 2 --- David W. Patten to go on a mission
Prophecy # 3 --- The United States Government to be overthrown in a few years and Prophecy # 4 --- Congress to be broken up as a government and Prophecy #6 --- Pestilence, Hail, Famine & Earthquake to Destroy the Wicked
Please see Chapter 4, The United States in Prophecy of Gerald N. Lund's The Coming of the Lord [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1971]
Prophecy #5 ---Finding Treasure in Salem, Massachusetts
Please see http://www.dcsites.com/dc030.htm and chapter 40, Doctrine and Covenants Section 111, of L. G. Otten and C. M. Caldwell 's Sacred Truths of the Doctrine and Covenants [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1982-1983], 2: 251.)
Prophecy # 7 --- Temple to be Built in Zion, Missouri
How can we test a person like Joseph Smith who claims to be a prophet?
Please see FAIRLDS.org's The Nature of Prophets and Prophecy.
Also see:
pseudogratix @ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father (John 14:12).
Very interesting thread, AJ ... save for all the really inane posturing and damning to hell of others. How Christian.
Your comment reminds me of one of my favorite bumperstickers down here: "You cannot be Catholic AND Pro-Choice"
None of the above.