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To: Angelus Errare
I think you make some good points here:

...Which would then lead him to the question of why he is not similarly vocal of condemning the various American, Serb, and Russian posters for their "pagan" EO beliefs.

A valid point in one sense... I would agree that the Catholic Church has no monopoly on pagan influence in worship. I would not limit it to Orthodox flavors, though. Someone else mentioned Christmas, which is certainly not limited to RCC or EO... Not to mention the concept of Christian Sabbath.

But as to why the RCC seems to get more attention in this regard, has to do (I think) with Revelations. True or not, many believe that there is scripture specifically addressing the RCC in Revelations. This is not just an anti-catholic doctrine:

“The Church here in Babylon, united with you by God’s election, sends you her greeting, and so does my son, Mark” (1 Pet. 5:13, Knox). Babylon is a code-word for Rome. It is used that way six times in the last book of the Bible and in extra-biblical works... Eusebius Pamphilius, in The Chronicle, composed about A.D. 303, noted that “It is said that Peter’s first epistle, in which he makes mention of Mark, was composed at Rome itself; and that he himself indicates this, referring to the city figuratively as Babylon.”

[Source for above quotes: Catholic Answers] (actually I copied the quote and the source from another post)

The inconsistency of the Protestant "big tent" idea (where everybody has a home - so long as you aren't Catholic) as it is interpretted by anti-Catholics is intellectually dishonest at the best of times.

I know there are a lot of people who believe the above. I know there are a lot of "Protestants" who do not believe that. I would certainly consider the "big tent" idea to seem contradictory to many scriptures.

54 posted on 02/03/2003 1:00:51 PM PST by OHelix
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To: OHelix
True or not, many believe that there is scripture specifically addressing the RCC in Revelations. This is not just an anti-catholic doctrine:

Duh. It's the very definition of an "anti-Catholic doctrine."

BTW, your attempt to confuse "Rome" and the Catholic Church does not bode well for your comprehension of any text.

SD

55 posted on 02/03/2003 1:04:45 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: OHelix
True or not, many believe that there is scripture specifically addressing the RCC in Revelations. This is not just an anti-catholic doctrine

We know exactly what you're talking about, so you don't need to pussy-foot around. Do you know that Revelation talks about a "great city," not a church, and specifies in Rev 11 exactly what city the "great city" is?

It's not Rome.

56 posted on 02/03/2003 1:05:39 PM PST by Campion
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To: OHelix
I would agree that the Catholic Church has no monopoly on pagan influence in worship.

Do you wear a wedding ring? Does your minister?

57 posted on 02/03/2003 1:06:40 PM PST by Campion
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To: OHelix
"Not to mention the concept of Christian Sabbath."

You an SDA or an offshoot thereof, Helix? If so, that may explain some things.

As far as the RCC goes, the Vatican is only on one of Rome's hills, and it isn't one of the traditional seven, if I recall correctly.
60 posted on 02/03/2003 1:14:05 PM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: OHelix
“The Church here in Babylon, united with you by God’s election, sends you her greeting, and so does my son, Mark” (1 Pet. 5:13, Knox).

Rome has seven hills, right? And the Beast has seven horns, right? Hence the beast is symbolic of Rome, right? Only problem is... the Vatican isn't one of Rome's seven hills.... Bummer, dude. The Rome/Babylon spoken of in the early epistles was pagan Rome under Nero, not Christian Rome.

If not for Christian Rome and her near 2,000 year heritage led on by Divine Providence, you'd probably still be praying to Demeter to give you good crops this year.
142 posted on 02/03/2003 8:34:22 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces.)
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