Dr. Judith Reisman, Advises Catholic Church to Sue the Sex Experts for Medical Malpractice

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[saradippity]

Thanks for posting more of Dr.Reissman's words. She certainly has helped my dot connections.

The USCCB has absolutely no reason to exist,their only function seems to be to thwart Catholic teaching and Vatican directives.

I try to be charitable but the "Citizens Committee on Abuse" was appointed after the bishops knew the peril in which their "Pederast Protection Policy" had placed children,teen-age boys,faithful Catholics and the Church;their selections were unconscionable.

I understand that Bishop Gregory is featured in Time magazine,perhaps we should suggest,via letters to the editor,that the only way the bishops can regain some moral authority and trust is for the USCCB to ask every diocesan newspaper to print the interview with Dr. Reissman in its entirety and then abolish themselves as an act of contrition.Then Catholics in the diocese may become informed about how remiss in their shepherding our bishops generally were.

Bishop Gregory should also be besieged with letters asking for the names of the bishops on the selection committee. I am just sure that Flynn character from St. Paul/Minneapolis was on it.Pray he is not sent to Boston. Someone also indicated Pilarchyk(sp)was on it. I wouldn't doubt that,I have watched him preen around like some queen several times as he slyly turned issues that should have been settled to another USCCB committee to stonewall and sabotage.

More public exposure at every oppurtunity also might wake up the brain dead,brainwashed pew sitters to the danger of these crazy sex education classes they are always trying to get foisted on the school children.

Wouldn't it be refreshing,if in place of their half-a*sed apologies,that usually have nothing to do with anything that is wrong or current but just blah-blah they would tell the truth.Each bishop could cover the interview (with Reissman) with a note saying that they had erred because of lack of knowledge,or whatever,but they want Catholics to recognize that we were all hoodwinked,or as the case may be.

Seems to me that God,Who is Truth gave us a short cut,the Ten Commandments,to follow and make our burden lighter and that every time we forget the transcendent God and apply our little "mangod",fuzzy faith,experential,feeling based moral codes,we experience yet again,that "God's God and we're not".

[Maximilian]

And not even a month later, Bishop Dolan, who was living there, was sent to Milwaulkee.

You went through that story pretty quickly for those of us who don't live in St. Louis and so aren't already familiar with the details. Are you telling us that Bishop Dolan was actually living in the same rectory with these 2 abusive priests? Or just the same city?

[Desdemona]

Are you telling us that Bishop Dolan was actually living in the same rectory with these 2 abusive priests?

Yes. Our Lady of Sorrows. They've been through the wringer. Please, keep this parish in your prayers. Every time one of the stories surfaces, the people there relive the nightmare.

[Maximilian]

Yes. Our Lady of Sorrows. They've been through the wringer. Please, keep this parish in your prayers.

Wow, this is scary. At Our Lady of Sorrows, the pastor resigns amid scandal. The assistant pastor "comforts" the parishioners in their grief until he too resigns amidst his own scandal. And while this is going on, Bishop Dolan is living in the same parish with these 2 homosexual abusers?

I'm pinging BlackElk because I remember that he was certain that Dolan was going to clean out Milwaukee. I wish my memory was better so I could ping some of our good posters from Wisconsin. Desdemona, if you can remember who are the Catholic Freepers from Wisconsin, please alert them to this information. There were those who were sure that Dolan would be the savior, and there were those who thought that "Bishop Cheesehead Miter" was not setting the right tone for a diocese which had just endured the grueling trial of living under Weakland.

Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan sports the latest episcopal attire, a cheesehead mitre. He donned the Wisconsin wedge during his homily at an outdoor Mass at the Cousins Center Sept. 8.
Archdiocese of Milwaukee

[saradippity]

Des,can you do a little better on the time and sequencing of the scandal at the parish where archbishop Dolan lived? I read on a Google search piece that he was ordained in St. Louis in August of 2001,he had just returned from a long stint in Rome.He was appointed in Milwaukee only 10 months later.

It seems to me Max is using your post to point out that the archbishop was negligent or remiss.While I was extremely unhappy that he was pretty kind,if not glowing in his recognition of rembert,I am unwilling to cross him off the list of very fine bishops based on 10 months at a rectory with abusers. Even if that is the case although it may be less.Need your help Des!!

As Livius pointed out on another thread,he has come to believe that many of these abusers are sociopaths,whose every work is likely to be a lie,thus they are quite convincing in their stories because they have no conscience,dolan's failing to recognize them would not in itself be unusual.So before this story takes on a life of its own,let us try to get some more facts on the table. ?Thanks.

[ELS]

I believe ninenot is in the Milwaukee archdiocese.

[saradippity]

You may have made the comment on this thread. Whereever you made it,it was on the money!!!

[american colleen]

Speaking of the USCCB, I was watching "World over Live" on Friday night (gosh, I'm remembering a time I would have been embarrassed to admit that!), anyhow, Pat Buchanan and Deal Hudson (my heroes) were on with Raymond Arroyo discussing the year 2002 in review. Deal Hudson made the statement that we need a firm bishop to lead the way and step out of the box but that is difficult because of the "collegiality" of the USCCB. He said the main thing the USCCB has done is to make the bishops rather distrustful of one another and it is hard for one guy to move ahead because the rest are not willing to let someone take the reins... they are always looking behind and beside themselves to make sure no one is getting ahead of them. What they spend most of their time on is writing silly letters and making sure they don't tick anyone off. --- paraphrasing, of course. Anyway, great show and you should see if you can watch the archive of it on the EWTN website. I think it rebroadcasts on Monday mornings at 9 or 10 Eastern time.

I guess it has worked pretty well in a way because someone like Mahony or Weakland didn't and hasn't led the way either. But apparently neither can a Bruskewitz or a George... seems like the USCCB breeds irrelevance and mediocrity.

[RobbyS]

USCCB breeds irrelevance and mediocrity. A bit like the United States Senate.

[american colleen]

I'm really disgusted that one of the same idiots who led the bishops into the newspeak feelgood garbage in the 70s and 80s (even I knew that Kinsey stuff was crap back then and I was a kid and not too smart, either) is on the bs "bishops abuse commitee" -- this is all a big black tangled ugly spiderweb.

On a high note, Boston "Catholic" Television has pre-empted 3 hours of EWTN in my area, from 9 AM to 12 Noon. Today I switched it on to find a priest preaching the beauty and technique of "Centering Prayer." He even used the word "mantra" when explaining it. I'm really seeing red over this and I'm going to write a letter to the priest in charge of the programming.

[american colleen]

Well, what is that old saying about absolute power corrupts absolutely?

If you listen to what the bishops say and what the polititians say (eyes closed) a lot of times you'd be pretty hard pressed to figure out who was the man of God and who was the man of the people.

[RobbyS]

Both are men of the people. The problem is that the bishops have been lead rather than led. They are guilty of the American love of success. If the archbishop of Boston had come out strong in favor of reformation, he would have been pilloried. Instead he talked like a conservative but did not challenge the powers that be. If law knows Church history, he knows what happened to St. John Chrysostrom.

[american colleen]

You are so right, thanks. Yes, Cardinal Law was orthodox in what he said, but not in what he did - that goes for the abuse stuff and also the dissent in the parishes. He would have been pilloried had he been more forceful, that is correct I believe. What is hard to reconcile is how much people love JPII and a Padre Pio and a Mother Theresa but still pillory those who are trying to walk the same walk as the aforementioned while leading their diocese with them.

Human beings are sure screwed up. I can't figure them out.

[RobbyS]

Plenty of nuns and priests out there who hate the pope. In their eyes he committed the greatest sin of all: he denied them the absolute power they crave.

[american colleen]

You are right about the power part (isn't that what we all really want?) but I don't think they hate him. I get the "he's irrelevant" message. He's too old, he's too orthodox, etc., etc. And so they try to dismiss him. Oddly, I hear this from mostly the religious or the ordained. I'll bet it goes for a lot of Cardinals and Bishops as well.

My own parish priest, who I like a lot and pray for a lot, told me last spring that we should pull away from Rome because they don't understand us (as Americans, I'm guessing).

[RobbyS]

I was thinking about twenty years ago when he was in him prime. Tell your priest that Rome "understands" us all too well.

[Desdemona]

Max, you misunderstand. Dolan IS one of the good guys.

Campbell, who was the pastor, had a single incident in his past, 13-16 years earlier - with a teenage girl - that wasn't even a crime. It was never eligible for prosecution and when we heard what it was...it was nothing in comparison.

It was the associate, who's activities FIRST surfaced this spring, who was the real problem and the Chancery had no idea until a 10 year old who was a family friend and not in the parish told of the abuse beginning when he was five. This guy pleaded guilty to five counts and is awaiting sentencing. And I hope he gets life at Potosi.

No, Dolan had nothing to do with it. And we miss him terribly.

[Desdemona]

See post #117. Dolan had no knowledge of any of it. And the associate at Sorrows (I Can't remember his name) was/is somewhat of a sociopath. I posted a story in November regarding his status. He's currently in jail. The allegations against him hadn't even been made when this all started last year.

I'll have to think about and post a timeline tomorrow. My parents' parish was one of the first with scandal in the background. That guy, Ross, and Campbell (the pastor at Sorrows) were removed the same day in February.

[saradippity]

Thanks Desdemona,happy to learn that. Pinged you Black Elk,since it looked like Max was UR tonight. Max,just be you and don't always be looking to put the worst face on everything Catholic. There's Catholic and catholic New Ordians.

[Aquinasfan]

Notice one of the authors of the 1985 study entreating the bishops to hand over their moral authority to the sexperts who were refusing to turn the abusing priests over to the authorities, was none other than Fr. Tom Doyle, Voice of the Faithful©'s "First Annual Priest of Integrity" award recipient. The other was Fr. Peterson, who later died of aids.

They're good at what they do.

This is very much analogous to the typical radical liberal m.o. used to bring about social change. Find a social problem. Declare it a crisis. Demand immediate action. Propose a "solution," sometimes the same "solution" that gave rise to the problem.