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And the only reason it sounds good to you is because that theory puts you in final charge under Christ. and supports your belief that everyone in the world is wrong except your little spin off group which will eventually set the world straight because of your works belief, and every one will see that your recapturing Israel’s laws and becoming a better Jew then the Jew, as though that was what God had really wanted all along, not our faith.

I don't really know where to begin with this. I am a wretched sinner Jim, just like you. Just like everyone. The death of Christ paid the penalty for my sins. Christ living through me saves me. By faith, I let Christ live in and through me. If you want to call that works, or ascribe an attitude to me then so be it.

Ro 14: 14. I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. Paul used the Greek word koinos for unclean, which is caused by eating or touching something physically, not the akathartos you would like to claim, and its is used 32 times in the NT to point to spiritual unclean-ness, such as evil spirits and demonic forces, and not once does it have anything to do with meat or eating, or something tangible, being able to contaminate someone.

That's what you keep saying and what the tradition you are embracing tells you. But there really are animals that are akathartos and you know it. It's in Acts 10 and it's translated as such in the septuagent. But you already know all this... :-)

That’s a cop out and you know it. Your Church believes that only those who believe as you do, will be allowed into the millennium as the spiritually saved of God, and that it will be your little group of law keepers who will teach and train all of us to understand God’s will.

No Jim, it really is the body of Christ who will be there. I have no idea who is or who will be in the body of Christ. I only know that my salvation is secured. Christ said:

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

That’s so egotistical, and so divisive to think the whole Bible was written just for you, since only your mindset of pull your selves up by your own bootstraps mentality, could override Christ promise that our faith in Him would save us, and not that of works.

The bible was written for everyone. Faith in Christ means letting Christ live in and through us.

Its Christ goodness that will save us, and if your thinking you’ll be saved by your strict keeping of the law, I think you may be very disappointed when you find out that Christ made salvation available to all mankind, and not just to a few spiritual supremeist.

It's not Christ "goodness" that saves us, it's Christ himself fullfilling the righteous requirements of the law by living through us.

Let me try an analogy. There are laws against speeding. Every day for 10 years a man sped every chance he got. Sometimes he did it willfully, sometimes unknowingly, sometimes there were speed traps. But he never got caught. One day he got caught and went before the judge. The judge said "We've been watching you. We know that you've been speeding for the last 10 years and we're prepared to put a hefty fine on you for doing so. You're guilty. But you know what? You're free to go because that gentlemen over there has offered to pay all your fines for you. Not only that, he has offered to drive you anywhere you want to go for the rest of your life so that you won't speed anymore."

The man is a sinner, Christ is the man who paid the fine. Now tell me: Should the man accept the whole offer from Christ? Or should he let Christ pay the fine and then keep driving himself, knowing that he's going to keep acting the same way? And if he did let Christ drive and you saw the mans car go by always obeying the speed limit would you be calling the man legalistic, or Christ?

The good news is, that God still loves you anyway, and he knows why your particular personality needs physical proof of everything, so that’s why you want to be able to point to a law and say I’m keeping that law, then point to the next one and say…..etc.

Thanks Jim. God loves you too despite of your hard headedness and lack of obedience... :-)

2 Cor 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

What exactly is written in our hearts Jim? Hint:

Jer 31:33 But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

I prefer having faith that Christ will remind me of all the laws he wishes to be observed, and since you prefer holding them in your hand and touching them and constantly pointing to them as reminders of God’s laws, I guess it only means you haven’t the faith to trust Christ to keep you from forgetting them.

I admit it, I'm a sinner. Invariably everything I consider righteous, or good, or proper is wrong. Thank God all I had to do was learn obedience and to follow the direction of Christ and the scriptures.

Well, Jews no longer need sacrifices either, and they are much better at keeping the legalities of the law then you or I, so where does that leave you now? IMO, :-)

I guess that would depend on whether I was keeping the law physically and not spiritually, as Christ deplored, or whether the law was being kept spiritually and physically, as only Christ can do.

Have a good afternoon....

Sorry, this came from no tradition or teaching that I’ve ever heard of from anyone else, God answered me when I asked him to explain what Peter meant when he used the term, “common or unclean,” and that’s what He showed me.

No Jim, it really is the body of Christ who will be there. I have no idea who is or who will be in the body of Christ. I only know that my salvation is secured. Christ said:

If it weren’t for all your other post showing the opposite, that God only loves those who keep the works of the law, I’d love to believe it.

It's not Christ "goodness" that saves us, it's Christ himself fullfilling the righteous requirements of the law by living through us.

Please show me this in the scripture, you may be right, but I don’t ever remember reading it.

1 Tim 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

I did however run onto this above. How long would you say a man remains lawless, disobedient, ungodly, unholy, profane, a murderer of fathers and mothers?

If a righteous man is none of these things, is he still in need of the law? Is it possible the laws weren’t made for him as it clearly states. The law was our teacher, do we need the teacher to follow us around our whole life, or just until we have been taught?

Since Christ paid the fine and then offered to drive me anywhere I wanted to go, the question should be, should I take Him up on this, and then run around telling everyone how lawless they are because they don’t have Christ driving them around.

Or should I decide to have another try at it myself, with Christ working in me, and if I fail a few more times, will Jesus then refuse to pay my fine and let me rot in jail? Or has He paid the fine once and for all, with such an abundance of his wealth, (His life) that the fine is paid automatically forever, as long as His Spirit is in me, since only God has that kind of love for us.

We certainly see the difference here in our Christian belief. While you believe Christ paid our sin debt once, then we’re on our own, and dare never sin again, I believe he has no limits on how many times he will pay it as long as His Spirit is in us, and we are going in the right direction no matter how slow, just so we never turn away from him.

Legalist are those who constantly remind others of the law, and have no problem pointing out all the laws they believe we are breaking, but they never grow to the point the law is a way of life for them, so they have to talk about it constantly for fear they themselves might forget it.

Anyone who has no need of being constantly reminded of what sin is, it’s because they live within the law of love, still you consider them as being a lawless person, where God considers us a law unto ourselves.

Did Jesus keep the law by constantly reading it and reciting it to Himself, or did He keep it in the fact He loved mankind? Which law could a man break if he truly loved his fellow man?