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Armstrong was eager to obey God, and he saw in Scripture that God commanded his people to keep the seventh day as a Sabbath. Although most Christians do not keep the seventh day, no one was able to prove to Armstrong that God ever authorized his people to change or ignore this commandment.

Can you prove from scripture, not tradition, that Armstrong was wrong about the above?

No one could have ever proven anything to Armstrong, so there should be no surprise there.

Herbert couldn't be proven wrong when it came to divorced people being allowed to remarry as long as their first spouse was still alive either.

That was until he fell for his 46 year old divorced secretary, when he was 86 him self, then he began studying the Bible and lo and behold, he found he was aloud to marry her after all.

All this, while my mother and step father had to separate even though they had been married for over 12 years at the time, and had two boys, and the oldest boy was the one I posted about on this thread #10.

Several local marriages were broken up from that belief until the shoe was on Herbert’s foot, then the scripture became flexible.

The original WWCG has apologized for all the harm they caused, even though they no longer teach the doctrine of separatist you belong to, and yours still tries to divide God's people into camps as they always have.

So were to believe that God has worked for 6 thousand years to save only your little group of a couple of thousand people that are to teach and rule the billions he will call later, am I right about your belief on that?

JH

23 posted on 12/02/2002 8:40:19 PM PST by JHavard
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To: JHavard
No one could have ever proven anything to Armstrong, so there should be no surprise there.

Apparently Joe Tkach could... :-)

Herbert couldn't be proven wrong when it came to divorced people being allowed to remarry as long as their first spouse was still alive either. Several local marriages were broken up from that belief until the shoe was on Herbert’s foot, then the scripture became flexible.

I'm sorry you felt wronged personally by Armstrong on this issue. Biblically speaking I agree with the first position. I think your parents were doing right in God's eyes and they will have rewards for doing so. But like you and me Jim, Armstrong was only human. Were your parentse free to leave the church if they didn't agree with the doctrine being taught?

The original WWCG has apologized for all the harm they caused, even though they no longer teach the doctrine of separatist you belong to, and yours still tries to divide God's people into camps as they always have.

Based on the people I know they caused more harm changing the doctrine radically then they ever did before. Don't get me wrong, I've heard of lots of things wrong in Worldwide, but they are nearly all administrative difficulties or authoritarian problems.

The original WWCG has apologized for all the harm they caused, even though they no longer teach the doctrine of separatist you belong to, and yours still tries to divide God's people into camps as they always have.

I'm sorry Jim, but that's just not accurate. You well know that our doctrine is that most people are going to be saved and given eternal life. An us against them attitude is pretty self defeating if you're going to have to spend eternity with someone whom you disagree with now.... :-)

So were to believe that God has worked for 6 thousand years to save only your little group of a couple of thousand people that are to teach and rule the billions he will call later, am I right about your belief on that?

If by "your little group" you mean United Church of God, no. If by "your little group" you mean the body of Christ, yes. Scripture teaches that the elect will live as kings and priests in God's kingdom. The number in all probability is going to well exceed a couple of thousand. The role of the elect is to teach God's ways to even more people during the milleniel kingdom.

27 posted on 12/02/2002 9:27:46 PM PST by DouglasKC
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