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To: SoothingDave
The same special grace which was granted to Stephen? Yes, of course. Except that Stephen got this grace through Baptism and the coming of the Holy Spirit, after being born in the normal state. This was all after the Crucifixion, of course.

Please show me Scripture where Stephen received his "grace" through Baptism.
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Mary got the grace before the Crucifixion (in time, anyway). She was full of grace before Jesus was even born, when the Annunciation of His Birth was made.

Same effect - sinlessness; different instrument - Baptism versus IC; same source - Crucifixion.


Words, words, words. Without meaning, but words nevertheless. Do you get paid by the word?

341 posted on 11/21/2002 2:37:02 PM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE
Words, words, words. Without meaning, but words nevertheless. Do you get paid by the word?

He is certainly not paid by the scripture or his family would starve

355 posted on 11/21/2002 3:20:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: OLD REGGIE
Mary got the grace before the Crucifixion (in time, anyway). She was full of grace before Jesus was even born, when the Annunciation of His Birth was made. Same effect - sinlessness; different instrument - Baptism versus IC; same source - Crucifixion.

Words, words, words. Without meaning, but words nevertheless. Do you get paid by the word?

Just because you do not understand, does not mean there is no meaning there. If I thought it would do any good, I would entertain your questions on this difficult passage I just wrote. But since you show no desire to learn, what is the point?

SD

368 posted on 11/22/2002 6:18:07 AM PST by SoothingDave
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