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1 posted on 11/12/2002 10:15:08 AM PST by NYer
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Recall that Howard Hubbard is bishop of the Albany, NY diocese, that produced Dr. Fr. Vosko, "the wreckovator". This is the second article I've seen where Bishop Hubbard notes the need to restore "kneelers" to those churches where they were removed.

Truly an interesting twist from this bishop. Perhaps the RCF investigation is holding him to the move conservative views.

2 posted on 11/12/2002 10:20:53 AM PST by NYer
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Truly an interesting twist from this bishop. Perhaps the RCF investigation is holding him to the move conservative views.
I think you need some fine translation services. Let me help. When he says:
"We have to take a look at churches with no kneelers," said Hubbard. "Once we get it, we will have a committee study it and figure out how to implement it."
He is referring to death by committee. Literally translated from liberal Bishopese to English, it reads:
”I was right the first time when I allowed my Churches to be renovated without kneelers, and everybody should take a look at churches with no kneelers to see how well it works here and in Europe,” said Hubbard. “Once we get this throwback document, my dissidents and I will have a committee distort it and figure out how to ignore it most effectively.”

Unspoken here, but implied, is the hope that Rome doesn’t call again, as it has been forced to with him before.

patent  +AMDG

3 posted on 11/12/2002 10:57:51 AM PST by patent
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The only question we have, if most of the church stands, why do we kneel in the U.S.?"

The Eastern Orthodox have been standing, exclusively to my knowledge, for hundreds upon hundreds of years.

Why, excepting cases of infirmity, would this ever even be an issue?

4 posted on 11/12/2002 11:04:16 AM PST by Pahuanui
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I don't know - I've been to Eastern Europe and the churches I visited have kneelers. How many have been to Europe and can vouch for the fact that the custom is to stand? I don't buy it.
18 posted on 11/12/2002 2:50:23 PM PST by oremus
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Is a persons salvation dependent on whether they kneel, stand or sit? Why does the church concern itself with matters of no importance? Or is this the tradition thing again?
39 posted on 11/13/2002 1:59:57 AM PST by PFKEY
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**For some churches in the diocese, it may mean returning kneelers to the backs of pews or attaching them to the chairs that are used.**

"Every knee shall been at the name of Jesus Christ". (paraphrased)
67 posted on 12/07/2002 7:20:30 AM PST by Salvation
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