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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day [John 6:39].

The term predestination applies only to the saved.

Why would God predestine what is already His..a bit foolish wouldn't yopu say? Did you predestinate your kids AFTER they were born?

It means just exactly what He is saying here. When a person accepts Christ, he is justified; and just as surely as he is justified, he is going to be glorified. When Jesus starts out with one hundred sheep, He’s going to come through with one hundred sheep. He will not lose one.

That is not what that scripture says mack it is what you WANT IT to say...It says ALL THE FATHER GIVES ME..not all that come to the Father by their choice H e gives me..because we also know that no man can come to the Father but by Jesus

Jhn 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

So the Father gives the elect to the Son and the Son gives them back to the Father..it is not about you Mack..It is not about me..it is about a mutual love gift exchange between the Father and the Son That is what this means. Everyone who believes and receives Christ, you keep forgetting "the whosoever wills may come to Christ." has everlasting life and will be raised up again at the last day.

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

A love gift to each other Mack..

81 posted on 11/07/2002 1:29:49 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; SoothingDave
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day [John 6:43–44].

Actually, the word translated “draw” is drag. That is divine election. You ask me to explain it? I can’t explain it at all. You're trying to reconcile and systematize again that which the Bible does not reconcile. I just know that you have a free will and you can exercise it. God holds you responsible for it, and you know you are responsible. You know right now you can come or not come. It’s up to you.

BigMack

84 posted on 11/07/2002 1:39:07 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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