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To: RnMomof7; SoothingDave
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day [John 6:43–44].

Actually, the word translated “draw” is drag. That is divine election. You ask me to explain it? I can’t explain it at all. You're trying to reconcile and systematize again that which the Bible does not reconcile. I just know that you have a free will and you can exercise it. God holds you responsible for it, and you know you are responsible. You know right now you can come or not come. It’s up to you.

BigMack

84 posted on 11/07/2002 1:39:07 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Mack it is a mystery but yet it is fully exposed in His word.We choose Him..BUT He chose us first..

In a VERY real way we are responsible to choose Christ..BUT if the Father has not given us to Christ we can not ...

I can not understand HOW God has accomplished this..only scripture says it is so..The Father gives us to the son and then the Son gives us back

It is like the crowns we will throw at the feet of God ..He gives us the crowns and we return them to Him

Some people think that the doctrine of election leads to spiritual pride..how foolish..it is most humbling to know that we are a gift of Love that the Father and son exchange..An awesome thought huh? Are YOU worthy of that ..cause I know I am just a foolish bit of nothing...BUT He loves me..incredible!

89 posted on 11/07/2002 1:52:37 PM PST by RnMomof7
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