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Principles of Literal Bible Interpretation
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| Revised, Aug 2001
| Cooper P. Abrams, III
Posted on 10/29/2002 5:18:29 AM PST by xzins
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To: theAmbassador; ksen; RnMomof7
The point is that you dispensationalists tell me how wonderful the worship will be during this millennium. I'm just wondering if animal sacrifices are such a wonderful spiritual memorial why you aren't doing them today.BS, you just wanted to lipoff again, and you proved you can't even interpret what someone is saying to you, let alone interpret the Bible.
BigMack
To: theAmbassador; ksen; RnMomof7
Great! If worshipping God through animal sacrifices is such a wonderfully spiritual thing, then how come you aren't doing it today?You're an x catholic I bet, they are the only ones that I know that can twist and spin this way.
BigMack
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
No, I understood exactly what ksen was saying. It does appear, though, if you didn't have a clue what I was saying.
So, tell me, if worshipping God through animal sacrifices is such a wonderfully spiritual thing, then why don't you take the bull to the local temple?
Do you celebrate the Passover? Surely such a man as "BigMack" is not squeamish about a few bloody guts.
To: theAmbassador
No, I understood exactly what ksen was saying. What do ya say ksen?
BigMack
To: theAmbassador
Great! If worshipping God through animal sacrifices is such a wonderfully spiritual thing, then how come you aren't doing it today?That is not how God has prescribed for us to worship Him at this time. If it was, I would, and I think you would too.
405
posted on
11/01/2002 1:29:15 PM PST
by
ksen
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
No, I'm an ex AOG Pentecostal who moved up to free will Baptist and then finally found a home with the Reformed church.
The problem is that all you dispensationalists tell me how wonderfully spiritual animal sacrifice is yet I just can't seem to find any of you getting a little bloody, so to speak. One would think if you really believed this stuff, you would at least make an attempt to practice it.
Just one little lamb of the first year perhaps or 2 turtle doves?
To: theAmbassador; jude24; ksen; RnMomof7
I'm no PETA freak, but I think that the dispensationalists are a little too callous about the issues.
Under the Old Covenant economy, some very strange things--including an "in-your-face" kind of gore--were necessary to God's unfolding instructional plan. But now that the suffering of Christ as the prophecied Lamb of God is understood in the Gospel, the re-institution of animal sacrifices, even in some memorial way, is unseemly.
In my opinion, the proposal smacks of retrograde theology--very much like Romanism. (It pretends to honor Christ, whereas it is actually denigrating Him by the very beggarliness and uselessness of the ritual.)
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The dispensationalists look forward to a materialistic millennium as a lovely age. But their anticipated re-institution of an in-your-face kind of gore involves a movement in the wrong direction for such a lovely age.
(The dispensationalists love to say that the lion will lie down with the lamb in their Golden Age of Peace. But it would appear that the lamb will need to keep his distance from the dispensationalist zealot--who will even kill that lamb for a completely needless display of religious violence.)
407
posted on
11/01/2002 1:29:27 PM PST
by
the_doc
To: ksen
So, where did the Lord abolish the use of animal sacrifices for worship--chapter, verse?
To: the_doc
I'm actually wondering, since the dispensationalists tell us that we will keep the feasts, and as we will be in glorified bodies if we will actually get sick when keeping the Passover feast. Wouldn't this be a little like the horse abandoning his diet for say a monkey? That hardly seem like a fitting memorial.
I do actually agree with you about the retrograde theology; it is essentially a return to the "type and shadow" that foretold of better things to come. It also seems to me to be insulting to the Lord. Why would I carry the lamb outside the city for a slaughter when I can cast my crown at the foot of the Lamb in awe and wonder of the true sacrifice that the little lamb only told us about?
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; theAmbassador
What do ya say ksen?I say I was going to ignore that obvious mischaracterization about my remark.
410
posted on
11/01/2002 1:44:28 PM PST
by
ksen
To: theAmbassador
So, where did the Lord abolish the use of animal sacrifices for worship--chapter, verse?Heb 9:13-17
411
posted on
11/01/2002 1:51:18 PM PST
by
ksen
To: the_doc; theAmbassador
Afternoon doc,
Have either you or Ambassador addressed Zec 14:1-21 especially verses 16-21? If not could you take a look at them and tell me what they are saying?
Thank you.
412
posted on
11/01/2002 1:57:26 PM PST
by
ksen
To: ksen; the_doc; RnMomof7
***Heb 9:13-17***
Now that is an interesting set of verses.
So, if the Lord abolished animal sacrifices for worship because of a new covenant, doesn't it stand to reason that if we will again restore animal sacrifices that we will return to the first covenant? This really does seem to be the way you dispensationalists slant things, especially with the obedience to the Law and the punishment of sin in this paradise kingdom.
And as a followup question: does this mean that the testament will no longer be in force?
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Mack, Ksen, xzin
gs:>)What happens to the people saved during the millunium taking into account scripture like
1Cr 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming
2Th 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
(Do you have any scripture indicating that any will be saved once Christ returns?)
I have ALWAYS believed thet church would be completed before His return.."the time of the gentile be fulfilled"
What do you do all the raised unsaved during this time?
To: ksen
When did he then restore them ? (As done in the New Temple)
To: theAmbassador
So, if the Lord abolished animal sacrifices for worship because of a new covenant, doesn't it stand to reason that if we will again restore animal sacrifices that we will return to the first covenant? This really does seem to be the way you dispensationalists slant things, especially with the obedience to the Law and the punishment of sin in this paradise kingdom. Thats what I was wondering
To: Corin Stormhands
Then we can move on the the Democratic party and "Jackass: The Movie"...
Rotflol!!!
Someone send oxygen!!
417
posted on
11/01/2002 2:43:51 PM PST
by
xzins
To: RnMomof7; ksen; fortheDeclaration; Corin Stormhands
Yes they are. In communion we say "this IS my body"....do you interpret that spiritually OR do you side with the Catholics and say it is "a real sacrifice taking place at that moment?"
Be consistent at least.
418
posted on
11/01/2002 2:49:25 PM PST
by
xzins
To: RnMomof7; ksen; fortheDeclaration
I call Jesus stepping foot on Mt Olives as clearly spoken in Zech 14:4 and Acts 1 to be his return to the earth.
I call his summons of his people into the clouds the "rapture."
The question is this: are those 2 separated by up to 7 years....then final week of Daniel. Pretribs say yes; midtribs say 3.5, posttribs say "at roughly the same time." (If pre or mid-tribs are correct, then the coming in the air of vs 1Th4:17 is STILL not the coming to the EARTH.)
Amills say there is no great tribulation to go through. (Symbolic, maybe???)
419
posted on
11/01/2002 3:04:04 PM PST
by
xzins
To: xzins; RnMomof7; theAmbassador; jude24; CCWoody; the_doc; Matchett-PI; Wrigley
"Amills say there is no great tribulation to go through. (Symbolic, maybe???) " Not true at all!
But, then again, I've come to expect no less than you than lies!
Technically, amil's are post-trib.
Jean
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