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To: Polycarp
<> I'll agree to stop using Kotex. I will continue to use filthy rags in referring to all their works when it is applicable to those that assert Isaias 64:6 aplies to them. That just makes sense. Rnmom0f7 and drstevej says it applies to them and all their works. <>
218 posted on 10/28/2002 10:14:53 AM PST by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
I'll agree to stop using Kotex. I will continue to use filthy rags

Thank you. That is a perfectly acceptable compromise.

219 posted on 10/28/2002 10:38:32 AM PST by Polycarp
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To: Catholicguy; Polycarp; RnMomof7
<>drstevej says it applies to them and all their works.<>

Not true. Here's my view.

[1] A believer's work produced by grace is not a filthy rag.

[2] A believer's self effort does get burned in the judgment.

[3] A believer's efforts done to impress men likewise perish.

[4] All efforts of unbelievers are filthy rags.

[5] I believe that a believe is simul justus et pecccator. But this does not preclude a believer from producing good works through grace.

[6] I believe that a believe is simul justus et pecccator. This does mean that believers are no perfect, they sin. Such sin dirupts fellowship but doesn't forfeit eternal life

That's my view. It may be rn's too, but whether it is or not is unrelated to me.
220 posted on 10/28/2002 10:53:18 AM PST by drstevej
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To: Catholicguy
That just makes sense. Rnmom0f7 and drstevej says it applies to them and all their works.

Never said that ..What is not of faith is sin...man made, man pleasing work intended to impress God or men or win the approval of men are filthy rags to God..works of Faith are a sweet thing to God..He takes great pleasure in works that grow out of what he puts in the heart of men

226 posted on 10/28/2002 12:44:53 PM PST by RnMomof7
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