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I'm wondering how many Christians will come here to defend their practice of Satanism...
1 posted on 10/22/2002 5:11:40 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I don't think that my son thinks of Satan when he is dressing up as Buzz Lightyear and going to our neighbors' to get some M&M's. Sure, there are tons of people out there that get off on the macbre, but for us, it's a time to bob for apples, dress up and eat ourselves silly on candy.
2 posted on 10/22/2002 6:39:00 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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You must be a real riot to hang out with. Tell me, are you just going to have your porch light turned off on Halloween or will you be one of those annoying fools in front of City Hall protesting that Halloween is "allowed"?

Me, I am taking some relatives trick or treating. I get 10% of all candy they receive.

5 posted on 10/22/2002 10:17:37 AM PDT by Bella_Bru
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Actually, we always looked upon it as our victory over the practices. Where once they terrified people, now they are merely children's games.

Speaking of which, my kids went the the local Halloween party dressed as a Kangaroo and a Cow--new, no big meanings there, ya know?

6 posted on 10/22/2002 11:19:38 AM PDT by FormerLib
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By the way, care to defend the wholesale slaughter of other human beings by atheist regimes (USSR, Red China, Pot Pot's Cambodia)?
7 posted on 10/22/2002 11:21:00 AM PDT by FormerLib
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I'm going to be the "Statue of Liberty" this year.

My husbands going to be Uncle Sam.

My 10 year old plans on being some kind of creepy guy.

Have fun.
8 posted on 10/22/2002 11:28:21 AM PDT by katnip
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I have not "celebrated" Halloween since I was converted..It is a heathan hoilday that honors Satan

I find it interesting that so man that hang lights for the "bithday" of Jesus also hang orange lights for this "celebration"

9 posted on 10/22/2002 12:00:00 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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Why do you "celebrate" on certain "holidays,"
what are you celebrating, do you really know?

Simple, alternate side of the street parking
being suspended for the day.
11 posted on 10/22/2002 4:35:27 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Søren Kierkegaard from The Sickness Unto Death:

"The fantastic is, of course, most closely related to the imagination [Phantasien], but the imagination is related in it’s turn to feeling, understanding, and will, so that a person’s feelings, understanding and will may be fantastic. Fantasy is, in general the medium of infinitization… (emphasis mine)

The fantastic is generally speaking what carries a person into the infinite in such a way that it only leads him away from himself and thus prevents him from coming back to himself.

Wow. This is a both a complete misundertanding and misrepresentation of what Kierkegaard was talking about.

It most certainly does not support your 'argument'.

12 posted on 10/22/2002 4:51:51 PM PDT by Pahuanui
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Here's something Christians can do on Halloween.
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/default.asp

Halloween can be used as a soul winning event.
14 posted on 10/22/2002 6:57:18 PM PDT by Commander8
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<> I'm dressing-up like Luther this year.<>
28 posted on 10/23/2002 1:15:45 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
You posted this vanity post a month ago, and then when I pointed out the Christian roots of Haloween, you blasted me with a quote from a 17th century anti papist bigot.

If we follow Paul's advice, we Christians are allowed to accept the good of anything: art, music or even holidays.

So dress your kid like a NYFD firefighter, and let him eat candy...

33 posted on 10/23/2002 5:22:40 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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When I was a child I did not know about the origins of Hollween or did I really care. When my children were growing up I did not know the origins of Holloween, it was just a day to have fun with them.NOW that I know the origins of Hollween even though my children are raised, I would say it is an individual thing. IMO, God judges us according to what is in our hearts. If Hollween is just something you do to have fun with your kids, if it has no bearing on your beliefs I see no problem with celebrating it. Rom. 14 bears this out. JMO:)

Becky

40 posted on 10/23/2002 8:03:13 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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It never ceases to amaze me that most Christians would criticize me for being an atheist, yet they will "celebrate" a macabre pagan holiday.

To most, it's no longer a macabre pagan holiday ... it's a night that the kiddos go from door to door to collect candy.

41 posted on 10/23/2002 8:05:46 AM PDT by al_c
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I'm wondering how many Christians will come here to defend their practice of Satanism...

Doesn't it seem strange that Halloween is also the day celebrated as Reformation Day October 31, 1517..
69 posted on 10/24/2002 8:31:15 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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Just a few years ago I wuold have been agrued that there was nothing wrong with Halloween. Now my family will not take part in it, at least not in the "traditional" way.

The Church is having a childrens fellowship. The kids can dress a their favorite Bible character. The evening will be fill with Bible stories, trivia and games. My wife will take the kids to this.

I will be at home passing out small treat bags containing candy, a christian tract and church flier. How much easier of a way is there to spread the word of God? Kids and their parents are literally knocking at my door!
75 posted on 10/24/2002 12:27:30 PM PDT by The Bard
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127 posted on 10/25/2002 5:37:24 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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My family enjoys Halloween and we watch Harry Potter.

Luckily only one person can judge my family, and it isn’t you.

See you in heaven.
131 posted on 10/25/2002 9:06:28 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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My two cents on Halloween:

First: 1 Thessalonians 5:22, “Abstain from every form of evil.”

Second: In life, the life that God intended His people to live, there is a line that we draw, and that line is called sin. There are things that are very specific in regards to this. Lying is sin. Stealing is sin. Sex with someone other than your spouse, is sin. That’s the division. On the other side of that line is freedom. Those things that are specifically sinful should be cut off and separated from the rest of life, but everything else comes under the heading of freedom. Freedom for us to enjoy and delight in. This would obviously include being able to dress up in a costume one night a year and collect candy from other houses, right? Sure but, before we go further, we need to look at 1 Corinthians 10:23

“All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify.”

Paul, here, is wrapping up a discourse he started in Chapter 8. He starts with verse 1, “Now, concerning things sacrificed to idols…” and has continued on discussing an issue that had been brought up in the Church at Corinth. Most of the meat that was sold in the meat markets in Corinth came from sacrificial animals that had been slaughtered at pagan temple ceremonies. However, part of the problem was that it was the best meat in town. The immediate concern of these Christians was this: If a Christian ate meat offered to an idol, were they somehow participating in the worship of that idol? Did these rituals somehow automatically taint the food? Some of the younger Christians in the church said it was sinful to eat that meat. The meat was tainted by its idolatrous identification. But other Christians in the church said it wasn't a sin to eat it. Well, first, Paul sides with the people who want to eat this food. Chapter 8, Verse 7-8. Paul tells these Christians that he agreed with their theology of freedom, but the problem was that they had become arrogant and selfish. (vs 9-13).

The real evidence of spiritual maturity was not knowledge but love, the willingness to live sacrificially for other people in the body of Christ. Paul asked these more mature believers in Corinth to exercise the freedom they had in Christ in a loving and sensitive way. They ought to be concerned for the brothers and sisters in the body who had a weaker conscience with regard to eating food sacrificed to idols and attending events in the pagan temples. So the call to these Christians was to give up their legitimate rights for the sake of the gospel that was at work in the body and in their community.

Edification is more important than our personal gratification.

As Christians we have freedom in matters of morally neutral things, such as celebrating All Hallows Eve. Contrary to what Janis Joplin sings, freedom is far more than merely “nothing left to lose”. Freedom means enjoying and developing our gifts and skills as the Lord has given them to us. Christ didn’t die to redeem half of our actions. When we received Christ, we were either redeemed in whole, nor nothing was. Christ died that we might have life and life abundantly. John 15:15, “No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is dong; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you”. We need to realize that we have so much more freedom that we ever even think of reaching out for. But, if we are going to reach out for freedom, and I honestly hope that we can try, our behavior must be tempered with concern for others in the body of Christ, as well as those who are outside.

If our freedom is going to be properly expressed through our Christian life, it has got to be concerned with the spiritual benefit of others. It is really for this reason, more than any other, that me and my family choose to opt out of celebrating Halloween.

137 posted on 10/25/2002 2:20:17 PM PDT by ponyespresso
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I wonder about the kids who dress up in slacks, white long sleeve shirts, tie and ride their bicycles to trick or treat as LDS missionaries. Now that sends chills down my spine. ;^)
168 posted on 10/27/2002 3:49:13 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Fantasy bad; mindlessness good...
187 posted on 10/28/2002 6:00:49 AM PST by Junior
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