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After cg came back I decided to search the site for anything that might be interesting before it got shut down again. The dajjal story caught my eye because I have been reading "The End of Days ,Fundamentalism and the struggle for the Temple Mount" by Gershom Gorenberg.

The thing about the red heifer comes from a mistranslation of the Bible. At the time the King James Version Bible was translated, the word "cattle" meant any livestock not just cows. The Hebrew word it was translated from only referred to sheep or goats, not cows. The people who are breeding red cows don't realize this point.

In the Muslim version of the story, the Jewish Mesiah and the antichrist are the same person who is called "Dajjal". He will arrive from the east leading an army of jews. Jesus will then fight a battle against dajjal and defeat him. Afterward, Jesus will break all crosses, kill all pigs, and make Islam the worlds only religious faith. The dead will be raised up and all humanity will be gathered to be judged by Allah in the valley of Jehosafat outside the walls of Jerusalem. In some versions of the story Jesus is shares his role as redeemer with a figure called the mahdi.

People who believed they were following the mahdi engaged in a revolt against the British Empire in the Sudan in the nineteenth century. Several movies have been made about this, the most recent of which was "The Four Feathers"

When Muhammed founded Islam he believed that the end of the world was near. He is quoted as saying, "Behold! God sent me with a sword, just before the Hour, and placed my daily sustenance beneath the shadow of my spear, and humiliation and contempt upon those who oppose me." The warriors who spread Islam believed that it was their duty to conquer the world before the Last Day and that not much time was left.

Muslims don't ignore the part about the red cow. In "Deflecting the Arrows from the Book" by Amin Jamal al Din , "the red cow...born recently in Haifa in what they call Israel" portends that the coming of the antichrist "is an arrows shot away or closer". When the cow "reaches its full development in the third year of its life, it will be sacrificed at the Temple of Solomon, and the person who will do this will be their king, their redeemer, the Antichrist."

*** Afterward, Jesus will break all crosses, kill all pigs, and make Islam the worlds only religious faith. ***

Is "pigs" in this statement a reference to Christians and Jews? Islam sure is peaceful.

In the Muslim version of the story,... Jesus will then fight a battle against dajjal and defeat him.... In some versions of the story Jesus is shares his role as redeemer with a figure called the mahdi.

It's the other way around. The Mahdi is the major character, and Jesus is in the supporting cast. The Mahdi comes to save the world from the Dajjal, Jesus joins him, subordinates himself to the Mahdi, and fights at the Mahdi's side. The Mahdi is a direct descendent of Mohammed, and is the purist Muslim since Mohammed. The Mahdi kills the Dajjal and all infidels everywhere (that means us), and governs the world in perfect shar'ia until the Day of Judgment. Some hadith seem to say that Jesus gets to strike the fatal blow against the Dajjal.

Jesus also chastises his so-called followers (the ones who believe in the Trinity). He breaks their crosses, kills their pigs, and levels their churches. He chastises the Jews for not recognizing him as the Messiah. He helps the Mahdi convert the world to Islam (or kill the stubborn).

The Dajjal is the greatest evil to threaten the earth since the serpent of Eden. Traditional Islam taught that he would be a one-eyed giant. But since the 1980's imams have been teaching that "one-eyed giant" could be an allegory for a powerful nation or a culture. Folks, that means you and me.

These beliefs are commonly accepted throughout the Muslim world. Not every Muslim believes that the United States or Western Culture is the Dajjal and that the Mahdi's appearance is at hand -- but this belief is extremely popular and widespread throughout the globe. And a handful of Muslims are willing to take the next step and enlist in the war against the Dajjal.

These people are signing up for the Mahdi's and Jesus' army, and believe that their scripture guarantees them a glorious victory over us. They believe this is the final battle before the Last Day. This is why they have no fear of the might and power of the U.S. Armed Forces. That is why they have no need for a future.

This is what Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld have not told you yet. This is not about politics or economics or even religious ideology. This is about the great battle where all non-Muslims are killed, and Islam covers the globe.

Do a google search on any of the key words and see what you find. Look up Prof. David Cook while you're at it.

*** Afterward, Jesus will break all crosses, kill all pigs, and make Islam the worlds only religious faith. ***

Is that before or after the sun rises in the west?

The thing about the red heifer comes from a mistranslation of the Bible. At the time the King James Version Bible was translated, the word "cattle" meant any livestock not just cows. The Hebrew word it was translated from only referred to sheep or goats, not cows. The people who are breeding red cows don't realize this point.

I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

The "red heifer" is parah 'adummah, literally, "red cow." Parah (cow) is the feminine of par (bull). You obviously have no knowledge of Hebrew and are relying on some "higher critical" source.

There are words that refer to "herd animals" as a collective singular (tzo'n, miqneh, behemah, and others), but the parah 'adummah is a red cow.

Then you have to consider that the Oral Torah fills in all the details, specifying everything about the animal for it to qualify. Of course, if you reject the Oral Torah (either out of a "sola scriptura" or a higher critical viewpoint) that won't mean much to you. But it's true nonetheless, whether or not it contradicts your assumptions.