[Dajjal]

In the Muslim version of the story,... Jesus will then fight a battle against dajjal and defeat him.... In some versions of the story Jesus is shares his role as redeemer with a figure called the mahdi.

It's the other way around. The Mahdi is the major character, and Jesus is in the supporting cast. The Mahdi comes to save the world from the Dajjal, Jesus joins him, subordinates himself to the Mahdi, and fights at the Mahdi's side. The Mahdi is a direct descendent of Mohammed, and is the purist Muslim since Mohammed. The Mahdi kills the Dajjal and all infidels everywhere (that means us), and governs the world in perfect shar'ia until the Day of Judgment. Some hadith seem to say that Jesus gets to strike the fatal blow against the Dajjal.

Jesus also chastises his so-called followers (the ones who believe in the Trinity). He breaks their crosses, kills their pigs, and levels their churches. He chastises the Jews for not recognizing him as the Messiah. He helps the Mahdi convert the world to Islam (or kill the stubborn).

The Dajjal is the greatest evil to threaten the earth since the serpent of Eden. Traditional Islam taught that he would be a one-eyed giant. But since the 1980's imams have been teaching that "one-eyed giant" could be an allegory for a powerful nation or a culture. Folks, that means you and me.

These beliefs are commonly accepted throughout the Muslim world. Not every Muslim believes that the United States or Western Culture is the Dajjal and that the Mahdi's appearance is at hand -- but this belief is extremely popular and widespread throughout the globe. And a handful of Muslims are willing to take the next step and enlist in the war against the Dajjal.

These people are signing up for the Mahdi's and Jesus' army, and believe that their scripture guarantees them a glorious victory over us. They believe this is the final battle before the Last Day. This is why they have no fear of the might and power of the U.S. Armed Forces. That is why they have no need for a future.

This is what Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld have not told you yet. This is not about politics or economics or even religious ideology. This is about the great battle where all non-Muslims are killed, and Islam covers the globe.

Do a google search on any of the key words and see what you find. Look up Prof. David Cook while you're at it.

[Polycarp]

They believe this is the final battle before the Last Day

In this respect, they might be right.

Pinging to an "interesting" thread...

[Neophyte]

believe that their scripture guarantees them a glorious victory over us

Excellent. Since a victory is guaranteed, the bullshit Muslim machos don't bother to do anything in order to bring it over. Tough luck, guys.

It's the same "philosophy" that stops them from taking care of the sewage for instance. As a result, the whole glorious world of Islam stinks to heavens. I presume, the Allah's paradise with all female and male virgins promised to the fidels would also divinely stink... if it existed.

[lockeliberty]

He chastises the Jews for not recognizing him as the Messiah.

I didn't think the Muslims believed Jesus to be the Messiah. I know they consider him a great prophet perhaps second in importance to Mohammed but obiviously not the Messiah in the christian sense or the jewish sense. What are the characteristics of the Mahdi in the Muslim legends?

Thanks for the info and cool screen name.

[Siobhan]

What about the black flags from Khorasan.....

[Aquinasfan]

This is what Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld have not told you yet.

Thanks. Very informative. It's better to know what makes them tick than not.

The reason that the sheeple will never hear about this is that the liberals who populate the media cannot accept as a logical possibility that people can be motivated by religious belief. Ultimately for them, all conflict must be based on some kind of class struggle.

[Bosco]

I've done a little bit of research on al-Mahdi, too. Part of the legend/prophecy is that al-Mahdi's army will come from the area of Afghanistan, will have a black flag as its standard, and will not be stopped before it reaches Jerusalem.

There exists a photograph of bin Laden at a news conference, and the backdrop is a black flag. I personally think bin Laden's organization thinks it is part of the al-Mahdi movement.

The Islamists see this war on an entirely different plane than we do - it is a holy war. In this situation it's not a problem for a Muslim engaged in jihad against the infidel to lie or deceive the enemy.

We're the Crusaders and the Jews, and if we don't convert then they'd like to kill us, plain and simple. Whether you're working in an office building, carrying a rifle or pumping gas, you are a target.

Have a nice day.

[slimer]

This is about the great battle where all non-Muslims are killed, and Islam covers the globe.

This is a battle between good and evil. I am just as passionate and confident that in the end, every knee will bow and confess the name of the Lord, Jesus Christ.