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Pope To Add New Mysteries to the Rosary
Catholic World News (Via Diocese Report) ^ | October 14, 2002 | Staff

Posted on 10/14/2002 9:50:58 AM PDT by Loyalist

POPE TO ADD NEW MYSTERIES TO THE ROSARY

VATICAN, Oct 16, 02 (CWNews.com) -- Pope John Paul II will release an apostolic letter on devotion to the Virgin Mary on October 16-- the anniversary of his election to the pontificate-- according to informed Vatican sources.

Leaks from the Vatican, in anticipation of the document's release, suggest that the Pope will introduce five new mysteries to the Rosary. The five new mysteries, the "luminous mysteries," will focus on the public life of Jesus Christ, Vatican sources say. They will be: the Baptism in the Jordan, the temptation in the desert, the proclamation of the Kingdom, the Transfigurations, and the entry into Jerusalem.

The Rosary is a traditional Marian devotion, popularized at first by St. Bernard, later by the Dominican order, and still later by St. Louis Marie Grignon de Montfort. The Rosary is composed of five joyful mysteries (which are recited on Mondays and Thursdays), five sorrowful mysteries (recited on Tuesdays and Saturdays), and five glorious mysteries (Wednesdays, Saturdays, and Sundays.) The five new mysteries would reportedly be used on Saturdays.

posted by Brian Barcaro 10/14/2002 08:31:16 AM


TOPICS: Catholic; Prayer; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; rosary
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To: Wrigley
This Christmas I hope you'll get a brain.
81 posted on 10/14/2002 3:20:47 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: biblewonk
More Mary worship. Good job mr pope!

Apparently you have been wonked on the head with a Bible once too often.

82 posted on 10/14/2002 3:22:35 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: american colleen
"I guess He must tell you what he thinks personally? Not. I love when one of us, His creatures, decide they know what He, our Creator, thinks. And then tells everybody else. "

John 10:27 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. (NIV)

I love when one of His creatures ignore the words of the Bible and try to demean people who follow it. You might be better off to put away your prayer beads,stop your repetitous chants, open your Bible and read what God says. If your not hearing his voice, as the bible says you should, maybe you should be quiet and listen.(please let's not go down the rabbit hole of is it an audible voice)

" Mark 7:13 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that." (NIV) Matt 15:7-9 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 "'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'" (NIV) "

Meditate on that for awhile. You might not be so inclined to tell someone they are wrong if you have some knowledge of what's right.
Let the Bible be your guide

83 posted on 10/14/2002 3:22:49 PM PDT by Joshua
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To: Siobhan
It's small, with a dark blue cover. A gem.
84 posted on 10/14/2002 3:28:07 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Siobhan
I just spitted involuntarily my beverage all over the computer.
And it's your fault buddy ;^D
85 posted on 10/14/2002 3:28:11 PM PDT by heyheyhey
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To: Polycarp
"So I'll simply pray a Rosary for all you anti-Catholic bigots, "

Why is it that anyone who dares to disagree with a Papist is a bigot?
This would offend me if it didn't come from someone who's nick sounds like a vinyl , bottom dwelling, fish.

86 posted on 10/14/2002 3:33:37 PM PDT by Joshua
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To: Joshua
Why is it that anyone who dares to disagree with a Papist is a bigot?

They aren't. Only people who use derisive epithets to refer to another's religion, like, say, "Papist," are bigots.

This would offend me if it didn't come from someone who's nick sounds like a vinyl , bottom dwelling, fish.

Meet the original vinyl, bottom-dwelling fish ... a better man than you (or me).

87 posted on 10/14/2002 3:48:40 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Wrigley; RnMomof7
I hear than rnmom will announce tomorrow, October 15th, five glorious mysteries of the TULIP!

Can't wait!
88 posted on 10/14/2002 3:51:40 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: eastsider
The proclamation of the Kingdom and the Triumphant Entry into Jerusalem seem to harken the present and future of the Church as well as speaking of the public life of Christ...the Transfigurations might well be harkening the future as well as the past.
89 posted on 10/14/2002 4:08:53 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: Joshua
anyone who dares to disagree with a Papist is a bigot?

You obviously missed an important point: The Pope is introducing contemplation of the public ministry of Jesus Christ to the contemplation of His Incarnation, Passion, Death, and Resurrection. Obviously, the Rosary is essentially a contemplation of the entire scriptural story of Jesus. But some bigots cannot get beyond their preconceived erroneous conclusions about what the Rosary really is.

Despite being corrected time and again.

Bigot is indeed the correct word for some folks who keep themselves willfully ignorant about Catholicism.

You got a problem with that, then you got a problem with God, not me.

90 posted on 10/14/2002 4:18:52 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: drstevej
I hear than rnmom will announce tomorrow, October 15th, five glorious mysteries of the TULIP!

Thats right you've heard of tulips from heaven

91 posted on 10/14/2002 4:24:39 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Joshua
This would offend me if it didn't come from someone who's nick sounds like a vinyl , bottom dwelling, fish.

My previous nick was Proud2bRC. You may recall our previous exchanges.

Polycarp was an early Christian Martyr.

The organization from which I took my current screen name, and for which I am an officer and board member: www.polycarp.org

92 posted on 10/14/2002 4:28:03 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: biblewonk; drstevej; Wrigley; RochesterFan; Woodkirk
Spiritual associations began with the ancient Egyptians, whose use of beads goes back to 3200 B.C. Calling beads sha sha strongly implies the beads' talismanic significance, since "sha" is the Egyptian word for luck. Beads officially sanctioned as instruments of prayer have been an important fixture of most spiritual traditions for centuries. And most of the world's inhabitants -- nearly two-thirds of the planet's population -- pray with beads. Some scholars have theorized that counting prayers naturally evolved from the abacus, the Chinese counting instrument that also used beads. Other have noted that records of the third century Desert Mothers and Fathers indicate that they carried in their pockets a specified number of pebbles, which they dropped one by one on the ground as they said each of their prayers.

Traditionally, prayer beads have consisted of strings of similarly sized beads, seeds, knots, or even rose petals and beads made from crushed roses, from which we get the word "rosary." The Sanskrit term japa-mala means "muttering chaplet," which refers to prayer beads' function as a means of recording the number of prayers muttered. Since counting prayers was initially so important, each religion embracing the use of prayer beads developed its own symbolic structure to follow.

In addition to helping keep one's place in structured prayers, prayer beads also symbolize the commitment to spiritual life. With their circular form, a string represents the interconnectedness of all who pray. Each bead counted is an individual prayer or mantra, and the rote repetition of prayers and mantras is meant to facilitate a sole focus on the prayer or mantra itself.







Did you know the Muslims use prayer beads?http://shop.store.yahoo.com/islamicshoppingnetwork/beads.html

So do the New age meditators http://www.malaquest.com/about/about.html

And the Hindi"s http://www.themoontemple.com/mala/mala.html

And the Baha'i http://www.special-ideas.com/pbeads.htm


And the Buddhists http://www.dharmashop.com/jewelry/malaindex.html?mgiToken=AC9BC3HS1VHQ51


Wonder if they all have new mysterys too?

Jer 51:47   Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.
93 posted on 10/14/2002 4:36:51 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
So now you are insinuating that when I pray the Rosary, contemplating the bible story of Christ's Incarnation, Nativity, Agony, Passion, Death, and Resurrection, and Pentecost, that I am using a pagan prayer method?

Pleeease.

94 posted on 10/14/2002 4:44:35 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: RnMomof7
That was very informative. I was aware of the Hindu's employing beads, but not the other major religions. Thanks for your input.
95 posted on 10/14/2002 4:45:20 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: Polycarp
I am not implying it Poly I am saying it straight up...it is a pagan method of repetive prayer...history says it

The Egyptians invented it ..who do you think Jesus was talking about?

Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

96 posted on 10/14/2002 4:49:39 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Polycarp
Her point is absurd. Pagan's also read their scriptures. With her logic, she would have to fling her bible out the window.
97 posted on 10/14/2002 4:50:08 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: St.Chuck
Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.


You may listen to Jesus or not..He does not hear that prayer..He said it..you waste your breath..
98 posted on 10/14/2002 4:52:20 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
As I am no heathen, my repetitions are hardly vain.
99 posted on 10/14/2002 4:54:37 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: RnMomof7
Wow -- I knew that the Buddhists used beads but not the Bahai,
Moslims, Hindus. FWIW the rosary is the circle above the cross,
the circle of beads with the cross hanging below --- the
ensign of the female.
100 posted on 10/14/2002 5:05:36 PM PDT by Woodkirk
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