Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Pope To Add New Mysteries to the Rosary
Catholic World News (Via Diocese Report) ^ | October 14, 2002 | Staff

Posted on 10/14/2002 9:50:58 AM PDT by Loyalist

POPE TO ADD NEW MYSTERIES TO THE ROSARY

VATICAN, Oct 16, 02 (CWNews.com) -- Pope John Paul II will release an apostolic letter on devotion to the Virgin Mary on October 16-- the anniversary of his election to the pontificate-- according to informed Vatican sources.

Leaks from the Vatican, in anticipation of the document's release, suggest that the Pope will introduce five new mysteries to the Rosary. The five new mysteries, the "luminous mysteries," will focus on the public life of Jesus Christ, Vatican sources say. They will be: the Baptism in the Jordan, the temptation in the desert, the proclamation of the Kingdom, the Transfigurations, and the entry into Jerusalem.

The Rosary is a traditional Marian devotion, popularized at first by St. Bernard, later by the Dominican order, and still later by St. Louis Marie Grignon de Montfort. The Rosary is composed of five joyful mysteries (which are recited on Mondays and Thursdays), five sorrowful mysteries (recited on Tuesdays and Saturdays), and five glorious mysteries (Wednesdays, Saturdays, and Sundays.) The five new mysteries would reportedly be used on Saturdays.

posted by Brian Barcaro 10/14/2002 08:31:16 AM


TOPICS: Catholic; Prayer; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; rosary
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 661-675 next last
Let's wait for the apostolic letter to come out before we jump all over this.
1 posted on 10/14/2002 9:50:58 AM PDT by Loyalist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Loyalist
I'm willing to wait, but do the Luminous Mysteries then go between the Joyful and the Sorrowful?

That makes the most sense.
2 posted on 10/14/2002 9:53:05 AM PDT by Desdemona
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Loyalist
Scratch that. So these are for Saturday only?

3 posted on 10/14/2002 9:54:44 AM PDT by Desdemona
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Loyalist
More Mary worship. Good job mr pope!
4 posted on 10/14/2002 9:57:24 AM PDT by biblewonk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: biblewonk; *Catholic_list; .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Antoninus; aposiopetic; ...
More Mary worship. Good job mr pope!

"The five new mysteries, the "luminous mysteries," will focus on the public life of Jesus Christ, Vatican sources say. They will be: the Baptism in the Jordan, the temptation in the desert, the proclamation of the Kingdom, the Transfigurations, and the entry into Jerusalem."

How exactly is meditation on the Baptism in the Jordan, the temptation in the desert, the proclamation of the Kingdom, the Transfigurations, and the entry into Jerusalem "Mary Worship?

At this point, my whole being screams out to you, [deteleted phrase]!" But I'm not allowed to say that here, or as a Christian for that matter.

So I'll simply pray a Rosary for all you anti-Catholic bigots, and in honer of JPII I'll include these new mysteries too.

5 posted on 10/14/2002 10:02:36 AM PDT by Polycarp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Loyalist
This makes sense to me. I have always wondered why the Rosary went from the Joyful mysteries and the birth of Christ directly to the Sorrowful mysteries and His death and then to the Glorious mysteries starting with the Resurrection.

It always seemed like a big hunk of the life of Jesus Christ was missing.

Another thought-- Proclamation -- I suppose that would include the multiplication of loaves and fishes. Actually I can see that it would go beyond any one miracle to including all of them.

6 posted on 10/14/2002 10:05:34 AM PDT by Salvation
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Polycarp
"The five new mysteries, the "luminous mysteries," will focus on the public life of Jesus Christ, Vatican sources say. They will be: the Baptism in the Jordan, the temptation in the desert, the proclamation of the Kingdom, the Transfigurations, and the entry into Jerusalem."

How exactly is meditation on the Baptism in the Jordan, the temptation in the desert, the proclamation of the Kingdom, the Transfigurations, and the entry into Jerusalem "Mary Worship?

At this point, my whole being screams out to you, [deteleted phrase]!" But I'm not allowed to say that here, or as a Christian for that matter.

So I'll simply pray a Rosary for all you anti-Catholic bigots, and in honer of JPII I'll include these new mysteries too.

How many times is Mary's name spoken in the Rosary? What in the world is a 'luminous mystery' anyway? RC's abolutely love naming things don't they. I expecially love the 'magnificat' name for few verses where Mary actually says something.

Sorry my entire being doesn't scream at RC's anymore, I'm used to the false doctrines and only seek to lay them open.

7 posted on 10/14/2002 10:09:03 AM PDT by biblewonk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: biblewonk
Sorry my entire being doesn't scream at RC's anymore, I'm used to the false doctrines and only seek to lay them open.

Sorry my entire being does scream at anti-Catholic bigots, I'll never get used to their false doctrines and and willful lies and I only seek to lay them open.

8 posted on 10/14/2002 10:14:11 AM PDT by Polycarp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: biblewonk
More Mary worship.

No. Not at all. The Rosary consists of these prayers:

1. The Sign of the Cross
2. Apostle's Creed
3. Our Father
4. Hail Mary (which is a quote from Luke with a request of the Blessed Mother's Prayers)
5. Gloria Patri
6. Fatima Prayer
(Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins,
Save us from the Fires of Hell,
Lead all souls to Heaven,
Especially those in need of thy mercy.)

The Mysteries are:
JOYFUL
1. The Annunciation - humility
2. The Visitation - charity
3. The Birth of Our Lord
4. Presentation of Jesus
5. Finding Jesus in the Temple

SORROWFUL
1. Agony in the Garden
2. Scourging at the Pillar
3. Crowning with Thorns
4. Carrying of the Cross
5. The Crucifixion

GLORIOUS
1. The Resurrection
2. The Ascension
3. Pentecost
4. The Assumption of the Blessed Mother
5. Mary is Crowned the Queen of Heaven

Each mystery is there for reflection. Like the Crowning with Thorns is to remind us to reflect on interior mortification. The Carrying of the Cross, the crosses we bear.

Daily Repetition is very comforting. And there is no worship of Mary. Just a lot of prayer and reflective contemplation.
9 posted on 10/14/2002 10:16:20 AM PDT by Desdemona
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Loyalist
WOW! This is great news...
10 posted on 10/14/2002 10:17:00 AM PDT by Irisshlass
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: biblewonk
<> The Rosary isn't Doctrine, Ace<>
11 posted on 10/14/2002 10:17:26 AM PDT by Catholicguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Desdemona
Thank you for your patient and charitable response to that FReeper. I've lost all patience towards them.
12 posted on 10/14/2002 10:18:40 AM PDT by Polycarp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: biblewonk
I expecially love the 'magnificat' name for few verses where Mary actually says something.

Mary says something absolutely lovely.

The Magnificat. Luke 1:46-55

My being proclaims the greatness of the Lord,
my spirit finds joy in God, my savior,
For He has looked upon His servant in her lowliness;
all ages shall call me blessed.
God who is mighty has done great things for me,
holy is His name;
His mercy is from age to age on those who fear Him.
He has shown might with His arm;
He has confused the proud in their inmost thoughts.
He has deposed the mighty from their thrones
and raised the lowly to high places.
The hungry He has given every good thing,
while the rich He has sent empty away.
He has upheld Israel His servant, ever mindful of His Mercy;
Even as He promised our fathers,
promised Abraham and his descendants forever.

One of the loveliest sentiments in the Bible.
13 posted on 10/14/2002 10:28:30 AM PDT by Desdemona
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Polycarp
Thank you for your patient and charitable response to that FReeper. I've lost all patience towards them.

You are most welcome. It disturbs me that God's most loyal servant in the history of the church is so misunderstood. And that so many are ignorant of the purpose of the Rosary.
14 posted on 10/14/2002 10:30:42 AM PDT by Desdemona
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Polycarp
I've lost all patience towards them.

But look how blessed you are as a Catholic...
15 posted on 10/14/2002 10:41:37 AM PDT by Irisshlass
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Desdemona
Daily Repetition is very comforting. And there is no worship of Mary. Just a lot of prayer and reflective contemplation.

Isn't there quite a few hail Mary's in there?

What worship consists up is the subject of many many debates here. Let's just say that your statement doesn't quite do it for me.

Does the verse in the bible about vain repetitions, or the verse that says God already knows what you are going to pray or the verse about the hypocracy of praying long prayers and much repetition mean anything? Why would God be interested in hearing what amounts to a chant? He wouldn't.

16 posted on 10/14/2002 10:59:01 AM PDT by biblewonk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: biblewonk
Why would God be interested in hearing what amounts to a chant? He wouldn't.

I guess He must tell you what he thinks personally? Not. I love when one of us, His creatures, decide they know what He, our Creator, thinks. And then tells everybody else.

17 posted on 10/14/2002 11:02:30 AM PDT by american colleen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: biblewonk
Let's just say that your statement doesn't quite do it for me.

Well, that is bothersome!

18 posted on 10/14/2002 11:03:05 AM PDT by american colleen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: biblewonk
Isn't there quite a few hail Mary's in there? What worship consists up is the subject of many many debates here. Let's just say that your statement doesn't quite do it for me. Does the verse in the bible about vain repetitions, or the verse that says God already knows what you are going to pray or the verse about the hypocracy of praying long prayers and much repetition mean anything? Why would God be interested in hearing what amounts to a chant? He wouldn't.

So, YOU speak for God, huh? Notice it says VAIN repititions. Do you think repititon is VAIN?

19 posted on 10/14/2002 11:04:57 AM PDT by Catholicguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Loyalist
Leaks from the Vatican, in anticipation of the document's release, suggest that the Pope will introduce five new mysteries to the Rosary. The five new mysteries, the "luminous mysteries," will focus on the public life of Jesus Christ, Vatican sources say. They will be: the Baptism in the Jordan, the temptation in the desert, the proclamation of the Kingdom, the Transfigurations, and the entry into Jerusalem.
Fr. Roland Walls wrote a booklet entitled "The Royal Mysteries." Following is an excerpt from "The Rose Garden"
How then is one to use the traditional mysteries, the joyful, sorrowful, and glorious mysteries, in a fruitful and helpful way ? for as soon as the Rosary is absorbed as a permanent constituent of devotion, the limitation of the mysteries becomes apparent. Fr. Roland Walls in 1990 published a chaplet consisting of the key events of the life and ministry of Jesus as Royal Mysteries. He singled out the Baptism, the Temptation, the Transfiguration, the Triumphal entry into Jerusalem, and the Institution of the Holy Eucharist as fully demanding consistent spiritual reflection. It is hard to say whether they have met a real need. Perhaps it is truer to say that their purpose is to create a need, that is to widen or to deepen the Scriptural focus of the devotion.
Personally, I'm partial to Fr. Roland's choice of the Holy Eucharist over the Proclamation of the Kingdom.
20 posted on 10/14/2002 11:08:20 AM PDT by eastsider
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 661-675 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson