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Pope To Add New Mysteries to the Rosary
Catholic World News (Via Diocese Report) ^ | October 14, 2002 | Staff

Posted on 10/14/2002 9:50:58 AM PDT by Loyalist

POPE TO ADD NEW MYSTERIES TO THE ROSARY

VATICAN, Oct 16, 02 (CWNews.com) -- Pope John Paul II will release an apostolic letter on devotion to the Virgin Mary on October 16-- the anniversary of his election to the pontificate-- according to informed Vatican sources.

Leaks from the Vatican, in anticipation of the document's release, suggest that the Pope will introduce five new mysteries to the Rosary. The five new mysteries, the "luminous mysteries," will focus on the public life of Jesus Christ, Vatican sources say. They will be: the Baptism in the Jordan, the temptation in the desert, the proclamation of the Kingdom, the Transfigurations, and the entry into Jerusalem.

The Rosary is a traditional Marian devotion, popularized at first by St. Bernard, later by the Dominican order, and still later by St. Louis Marie Grignon de Montfort. The Rosary is composed of five joyful mysteries (which are recited on Mondays and Thursdays), five sorrowful mysteries (recited on Tuesdays and Saturdays), and five glorious mysteries (Wednesdays, Saturdays, and Sundays.) The five new mysteries would reportedly be used on Saturdays.

posted by Brian Barcaro 10/14/2002 08:31:16 AM


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To: Joshua
With all the knowledgable Catholics on here and the resources they have on the web it should be easy to prove my statements false.

Easy it is :^D

 

Numero Uno -- Didache,
The Lord's Teaching to the Heathen by the Twelve Apostles:

1 There are two ways, one of life and one of death; and between the two ways there is a great difference.

2 Now, this is the way of life:

The second commandment of the Teaching: "Do not murder; do not commit adultery"; do not corrupt boys; do not fornicate; "do not steal"; do not practice magic; do not go in for sorcery; do not murder a child by abortion or kill a newborn infant. "Do not covet your neighbor's property; do not commit perjury; do not bear false witness"; do not slander; do not bear grudges. Do not be double-minded or double-tongued, for a double tongue is "a deadly snare." Your words shall not be dishonest or hollow, but substantiated by action. Do not be greedy or extortionate or hypocritical or malicious or arrogant. Do not plot against your neighbor. Do not hate anybody; but reprove some, pray for others, and still others love more than your own life.

 

Tertullian

"In our case, a murder being once for all forbidden, we may not destroy even the fetus in the womb, while as yet the human being derives blood from the other parts of the body for its sustenance. To hinder a birth is merely a speedier man-killing; nor does it matter whether you take away a life that is born, or destroy one that is coming to birth. That is a man which is going to be one; you have the fruit already in its seed" (Apology 9:8 [A.D. 197]).

"Among surgeons’ tools there is a certain instrument, which is formed with a nicely-adjusted flexible frame for opening the uterus first of all and keeping it open; it is further furnished with an annular blade, by means of which the limbs [of the child] within the womb are dissected with anxious but unfaltering care; its last appendage being a blunted or covered hook, wherewith the entire fetus is extracted by a violent delivery.

"There is also [another instrument in the shape of] a copper needle or spike, by which the actual death is managed in this furtive robbery of life: They give it, from its infanticide function, the name of embruosphaktes, [meaning] "the slayer of the infant," which of course was alive. . . .

"[The doctors who performed abortions] all knew well enough that a living being had been conceived, and [they] pitied this most luckless infant state, which had first to be put to death, to escape being tortured alive" (The Soul 25 [A.D. 210]).

"Now we allow that life begins with conception because we contend that the soul also begins from conception; life taking its commencement at the same moment and place that the soul does" (ibid., 27).

"The law of Moses, indeed, punishes with due penalties the man who shall cause abortion [Ex. 21:22–24]" (ibid., 37).

 

Hippolytus

"Women who were reputed to be believers began to take drugs to render themselves sterile, and to bind themselves tightly so as to expel what was being conceived, since they would not, on account of relatives and excess wealth, want to have a child by a slave or by any insignificant person. See, then, into what great impiety that lawless one has proceeded, by teaching adultery and murder at the same time!" (Refutation of All Heresies [A.D. 228]).

 

Lactantius

"When God forbids us to kill, he not only prohibits us from open violence, which is not even allowed by the public laws, but he warns us against the commission of those things which are esteemed lawful among men. . . . Therefore, let no one imagine that even this is allowed, to strangle newly-born children, which is the greatest impiety; for God breathes into their souls for life, and not for death. But men, that there may be no crime with which they may not pollute their hands, deprive [unborn] souls as yet innocent and simple of the light which they themselves have not given.

"Can anyone, indeed, expect that they would abstain from the blood of others who do not abstain even from their own? But these are, without any controversy, wicked and unjust" (Divine Institutes 6:20 [A.D. 307]).

 

Council of Ancyra

"Concerning women who commit fornication, and destroy that which they have conceived, or who are employed in making drugs for abortion, a former decree excluded them until the hour of death, and to this some have assented. Nevertheless, being desirous to use somewhat greater lenity, we have ordained that they fulfill ten years [of penance], according to the prescribed degrees" (canon 21 [A.D. 314]).

 

Basil the Great

"Let her that procures abortion undergo ten years’ penance, whether the embryo were perfectly formed, or not" (First Canonical Letter, canon 2 [A.D. 374]).

"He that kills another with a sword, or hurls an axe at his own wife and kills her, is guilty of willful murder; not he who throws a stone at a dog, and unintentionally kills a man, or who corrects one with a rod, or scourge, in order to reform him, or who kills a man in his own defense, when he only designed to hurt him. But the man, or woman, is a murderer that gives a philtrum, if the man that takes it dies upon it; so are they who take medicines to procure abortion; and so are they who kill on the highway, and rapparees" (ibid., canon 8).

 

John Chrysostom

"Wherefore I beseech you, flee fornication. . . . Why sow where the ground makes it its care to destroy the fruit?—where there are many efforts at abortion?—where there is murder before the birth? For even the harlot you do not let continue a mere harlot, but make her a murderess also. You see how drunkenness leads to prostitution, prostitution to adultery, adultery to murder; or rather to a something even worse than murder. For I have no name to give it, since it does not take off the thing born, but prevents its being born. Why then do thou abuse the gift of God, and fight with his laws, and follow after what is a curse as if a blessing, and make the chamber of procreation a chamber for murder, and arm the woman that was given for childbearing unto slaughter? For with a view to drawing more money by being agreeable and an object of longing to her lovers, even this she is not backward to do, so heaping upon thy head a great pile of fire. For even if the daring deed be hers, yet the causing of it is thine" (Homilies on Romans 24 [A.D. 391]).

 

Jerome

"I cannot bring myself to speak of the many virgins who daily fall and are lost to the bosom of the Church, their mother. . . . Some go so far as to take potions, that they may insure barrenness, and thus murder human beings almost before their conception. Some, when they find themselves with child through their sin, use drugs to procure abortion, and when, as often happens, they die with their offspring, they enter the lower world laden with the guilt not only of adultery against Christ but also of suicide and child murder" (Letters 22:13 [A.D. 396]).

 

161 posted on 10/14/2002 11:35:59 PM PDT by heyheyhey
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To: Joshua
I followed the Catholic faith for 35 years. I was educated in catholic schools.

Somehow, I find it very hard to believe.

162 posted on 10/14/2002 11:42:35 PM PDT by heyheyhey
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To: nickcarraway
ensign?

One paygrade below Lt. Junior Grade.

163 posted on 10/15/2002 3:02:59 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Siobhan
I look forward more to Easter.
164 posted on 10/15/2002 4:41:13 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Campion
I'll have to go back and refresh my memory, but did Jesus finish that prayer each time? IIRC He went and saw that the disciples fell asleep, woke them, and started again. Much different than praying a repitative rosary prayer.
165 posted on 10/15/2002 4:45:15 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: heyheyhey; Joshua
I followed the Catholic faith for 35 years. I was educated in catholic schools.

Somehow, I find it very hard to believe.

LOL -- my first thought was that someone educated in Catholic schools would know grammar!

166 posted on 10/15/2002 4:56:36 AM PDT by maryz
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To: RobbyS
You must be psychic --- but not my mind, only my hand, I
had to clean the leaves out of them yesterday.
167 posted on 10/15/2002 5:04:16 AM PDT by Woodkirk
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To: drstevej
I hear than rnmom will announce tomorrow, October 15th, five glorious mysteries of the TULIP!

Can't wait!

<> It makes logical sense. Doomed to imitation of the truth, but perverted to fit their opposition, imitation by protestants is inevitable. Even as the 16th Century heretic's worship service is but the weak and heretical tea of the Mass institued by Jesus at the Last Supper.<>

168 posted on 10/15/2002 5:18:46 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: RnMomof7
RE #150
Don't forget that the "Lord's Prayer" is prayed as part of the rosary .
169 posted on 10/15/2002 5:29:27 AM PDT by dadwags
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To: maryz
I too was educated in Catholic schools and know my grammar
I know the grammar on my father's side and the grammar on
my mother's side, and I have a lot of pictures to prove it ` .
170 posted on 10/15/2002 5:33:10 AM PDT by Woodkirk
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To: Joshua
Joshua, I think you ignore the fact that our knowledge of human biology had progressed far beyond that oa Aristotle by the 1800 's . when the early origin of human life was realized, it was protected .
What is your point ?
171 posted on 10/15/2002 5:36:14 AM PDT by dadwags
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To: Joshua
Your post #114 is very well written.I just have one little problem with it. The Catholic church did allow abortion of babies up to 40 days. PROVE IT They held the view of Aristotle on this that babies go in stages from vegatable to animal to spiritual. Gregory VI (1045-1046) and Gregory XIII (1572-85) both said that He is not a murderer who brings about abortion before the 40th day since the embryo is not yet human. Sixtus V did not agree and his Bull of 1588 made all abortion murder. His successor,Gregory XIV reversed that decree. In 1621 the Vatican issued another pastoral directive permitting abortion up to 40 days. It wasn't until 1869 that Pius IX made all abortion murder. I had all of these references on my old hard drive before it crashed. "THE DOG ATE MY HOMEWORK"I never had the need to look it up again since I do not follow the Catholic teachings. "I don't have to prove anything. My oposition is sufficient. N'Yeah, N'Yeah, N'Yeah, N'Yeah, N'Yeah" There will be some on here that will flame me on this and never bother checking it out. YOU MADE THE FALSE CHARGE> YOU PROVE ITThey will scream for me to prove it. I don't need to it is not my faith. I have given you the names of the Popes, their dates and the dates of the directives. With all the knowledgable Catholics on here and the resources they have on the web it should be easy to prove my statements false. YOU HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO TRY AND PROVE YOUR LIES. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BURDEN TO PROVE YOUR LIES FALSEI admit it took some digging but it is out there for anyone who wants to know the truth. "Digging" is the correct word to describe this contemptible, unproven, unsourced, dirt.
172 posted on 10/15/2002 5:56:16 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
<> It makes logical sense. Doomed to imitation of the truth, but perverted to fit their opposition, imitation by protestants is inevitable. Even as the 16th Century heretic's worship service is but the weak and heretical tea of the Mass institued by Jesus at the Last Supper.<>

Eloquent yet inane.
173 posted on 10/15/2002 6:01:29 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: Junior
That all by itself would probably not have to be called worship, just doctrinally incorrect. When added as a piece of the whole puzzle it all falls under the category of Mary Worship. Not all RC's worship Mary though, I can say that for sure.
174 posted on 10/15/2002 6:11:44 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: Woodkirk
Stick to your last.
175 posted on 10/15/2002 6:22:27 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Junior
Do you sing hymns at church? That is what these prayers are -- spoken hymns. They serve the same function: to get a person in the right frame of mind for worship.

Ok now we have 3 different things, prayer, singing, and chanting. They are all different. Someone rightly pointed out earlier that there is repetition in a couple of psalms which are songs. But heathens chant to their gods and that is what God doesn't want.

176 posted on 10/15/2002 6:25:38 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: RochesterFan
In summary, one cannot separate the ministry of the Holy Spirit from the Scriptures. When a believer says, "let the Bible be your guide," the illumination of the Spirit of God is implied.

To the extent that you accept any theory of implication, you are accepting that the Bible does not explicitly say that only that which is stated in the canon must be believed.

177 posted on 10/15/2002 6:34:32 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: biblewonk
Do you repeat the psalms? The monks did this in choir. Such things are forbidden?
178 posted on 10/15/2002 6:38:25 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: biblewonk
Through 'chanting' and 'vain repetition' of the Holy Rosary, my father, who swore he would never be baptized, came into the Church and now goes to Mass regularly.

And now he even says the Rosary and wears a Brown Scapular.

I credit my father's change of mind to the intercession of the Mother of Jesus Christ and the Holy Rosary, which I wore myself out praying. Many repetitions to say the least.

I also credit the Our Lady and her rosary for not only bringing my brother back to the Church after his roommate had him hooked into leaving the Church to become Baptist, but also bringing the roommate out of the Baptist Church and into the Catholic Church.

"Never will anyone who says his rosary every day be led astray. This is a statement that I would gladly sign with my blood."-St. Louis De Montfort (who's body was found to be incorrupt)

179 posted on 10/15/2002 6:46:19 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch; RobbyS
I have a question, Do you consider reading, and studying your bible prayer?

Becky

180 posted on 10/15/2002 6:58:37 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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