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<> I appreciate being singled-out for one of your few comments. I don't think Mr. Hahn was trying to deceive or trick folks. He was reasoning by analogy. He in no way intended to trick or fool others.

I don't know whether or not Hahn has debated others. If he has, he has likely wiped the floor with them.

As to your most Catholics don't read the Bible, that is likely true. The same holds for most Protestants. One of the biggest fallacies existing is that protestants know scripture. They really don't.

Individual protestants know what their local ministers tell them about the Bible. Woe betide that man in the congregation who dares disagree with his Minister. Although both, protestant doctrine tells us, are led by the Holy Spirit to ascertain the truth of God's word, it is the local Minister who is the Pope for his local ecclesia.

You traded one Pope for millions. Not a good deal :)

>For those raised Catholics and now have abandoned the Ark of Salvation for antother Church, 2 John 10 (I am doing this from memory; so I may be off a verse or two).<>

The same holds for most Protestants. One of the biggest fallacies existing is that protestants know scripture. They really don't.

As a former catholic, who now attends and Independent Baptist Church (I don't consider myself a Protestant, but that is a whole other topic:) I have to agree with you 110% on this. Even most of the Independent Baptist in my church are a little vague on it:) That, IMO is why so much apostasy is out there.

2 John 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

Is this what you were looking for?

What doctrine would you say was John talking about?

Becky

"He was reasoning by analogy. He in no way intended to trick or fool others."

It was not a good analogy because the Scripture was taken way out of context. He got the reaction from the audience he wanted. I still think he knew what he was doing.

I can only speak for myself and the Church I attend. When I attended the Catholic Church I didn't know anyone who read the Bible and don't remember ever being encouraged to. In my current Church I know many people who read the Bible regularly, and it is encouraged during the teaching most weeks. It is this that I based my comment on. I have no idea what percentage of people truely study the Bible. I'm sure there were Catholic's who did and I just didn't know it.

You are correct that I "abandoned the Ark of Salvation", about eight years ago when I stopped attending Church and even became bitterly vocal against God. But due to what I consider a unique and wonderfull set of circumstances my current Church found me.

I consider my authority Jesus and the Bible the inspired Word of God. It is to this authority that I put everything to the test to determine what is true. I don't just take anyone's word on issues of doctrine. Good tradition is good. Good teaching is good. What makes it good is when it complements the Bible. What makes it bad is when it contradicts the Bible.

I'm sure we have much in common, but also some things we would disagree on. Truth will prevail. I've a fairly open mind that can be changed, given the evidence. That's why I read these threads. I'll keep reading, and keep on sucking up all this good info:-)

Lord, I pray for wisdom and correct discernment for myself and all those who read these posts. This, so that we can glorify you in the mannor you intended when you created us. Thank you Jesus for taking our sins and dying that horrible death, the death we deserve, so that we may have eternal life. You are my Lord and Savior, and in Your name I pray to the Father. Amen.

May God bless