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"He was reasoning by analogy. He in no way intended to trick or fool others."

It was not a good analogy because the Scripture was taken way out of context. He got the reaction from the audience he wanted. I still think he knew what he was doing.

I can only speak for myself and the Church I attend. When I attended the Catholic Church I didn't know anyone who read the Bible and don't remember ever being encouraged to. In my current Church I know many people who read the Bible regularly, and it is encouraged during the teaching most weeks. It is this that I based my comment on. I have no idea what percentage of people truely study the Bible. I'm sure there were Catholic's who did and I just didn't know it.

You are correct that I "abandoned the Ark of Salvation", about eight years ago when I stopped attending Church and even became bitterly vocal against God. But due to what I consider a unique and wonderfull set of circumstances my current Church found me.

I consider my authority Jesus and the Bible the inspired Word of God. It is to this authority that I put everything to the test to determine what is true. I don't just take anyone's word on issues of doctrine. Good tradition is good. Good teaching is good. What makes it good is when it complements the Bible. What makes it bad is when it contradicts the Bible.

I'm sure we have much in common, but also some things we would disagree on. Truth will prevail. I've a fairly open mind that can be changed, given the evidence. That's why I read these threads. I'll keep reading, and keep on sucking up all this good info:-)

Lord, I pray for wisdom and correct discernment for myself and all those who read these posts. This, so that we can glorify you in the mannor you intended when you created us. Thank you Jesus for taking our sins and dying that horrible death, the death we deserve, so that we may have eternal life. You are my Lord and Savior, and in Your name I pray to the Father. Amen.

May God bless

When I attended the Catholic Church I didn't know anyone who read the Bible and don't remember ever being encouraged to.

This is the way I saw it too. and my experience went one step farther. I was actually discouraged from reading it once when I had picked it up and was looking thru it. I was told it would confuse me so not to do it. This from my mother.

I consider my authority Jesus and the Bible the inspired Word of God. It is to this authority that I put everything to the test to determine what is true. I don't just take anyone's word on issues of doctrine. Good tradition is good. Good teaching is good. What makes it good is when it complements the Bible. What makes it bad is when it contradicts the Bible.

Good advise that all should follow:)

Lord, I pray for wisdom and correct discernment for myself and all those who read these posts. This, so that we can glorify you in the mannor you intended when you created us. Thank you Jesus for taking our sins and dying that horrible death, the death we deserve, so that we may have eternal life. You are my Lord and Savior, and in Your name I pray to the Father. Amen.

Amen, again:)

Becky

I went to a marriage ceremony recently. The priest said that if all the Bibles were dumped in the trash tomorrow we would still have the fullness of the Bible through the celebration of the Mass.

Since the local priest is the main face of the church, it is no wonder that the average Catholic is apathetic towards digging into the Word of God. Developing a intimate relationship with God is reduced to putting in time at the Mass.

"He was reasoning by analogy. He in no way intended to trick or fool others." It was not a good analogy because the Scripture was taken way out of context. He got the reaction from the audience he wanted. I still think he knew what he was doing.

<> Look, you really have no arguement here. It was an excellent analogy. And as you view yourself as free to read the Bible and decide for yourself what it intends, you jettisoned any basis for calling Hahn's use of analogy wrong or out of context. Yuor position is a subjective one and you, therefore, have no objective criteria for an appeal that another is in error. He is, like you would advance, similarly guided by the Holy Spirit while reading Scripture..

Hanh appears to be a lightning rod. I think his arguements tend to prick the consciences of some while they illumine the intellect of others.<>

I can only speak for myself and the Church I attend. When I attended the Catholic Church I didn't know anyone who read the Bible and don't remember ever being encouraged to.

<> Presumably it was read at Mass and the Mass itself is the Bible put into action. Too bad you never learned that.<>

In my current Church I know many people who read the Bible regularly, and it is encouraged during the teaching most weeks. It is this that I based my comment on. I have no idea what percentage of people truely study the Bible. I'm sure there were Catholic's who did and I just didn't know it.

You are correct that I "abandoned the Ark of Salvation", about eight years ago when I stopped attending Church and even became bitterly vocal against God. But due to what I consider a unique and wonderfull set of circumstances my current Church found me.

I consider my authority Jesus and the Bible the inspired Word of God. It is to this authority that I put everything to the test to determine what is true. I don't just take anyone's word on issues of doctrine. Good tradition is good. Good teaching is good. What makes it good is when it complements the Bible. What makes it bad is when it contradicts the Bible.

<> Yes, and the Catholic Church that Jesus established and which the Bible says is the Pillar and Ground of truth must yield to your personal views. I didn't know you had been given that power and authority. Where does one find such authority in the Bible?<>

I'm sure we have much in common, but also some things we would disagree on. Truth will prevail. I've a fairly open mind that can be changed, given the evidence. That's why I read these threads. I'll keep reading, and keep on sucking up all this good info:-)

<> Maybe you'll be a revert:) <>

Lord, I pray for wisdom and correct discernment for myself and all those who read these posts. This, so that we can glorify you in the mannor you intended when you created us. Thank you Jesus for taking our sins and dying that horrible death, the death we deserve, so that we may have eternal life. You are my Lord and Savior, and in Your name I pray to the Father. Amen.

May God bless<> Amen<>