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T, I agree that it CAN be. I don't agree that it MUST be or even that it's the BEST translation.
My only point is that when we make an interpretive choice that isn't a CLEAR FACT, that we remember that we've added an assumption on the way to whatever conclusion we end up with.
It's not wrong to make assumptions. Some are stronger than others in terms of supporting evidence, circumstantial evidence, etc. but they are still assumptions.

That is the issue isn't it..it MIGHT be that it is living Saints and dead saints..or Dead Saints and marytrs, or one groupd described in two ways...(I now tend to think it is two groups...I am a Revelation mess:>)

One of the interesting insites I got from reading this over and over last night is the meaning of Revelation 20 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given to them,

I have always read that that they were given the right to judge...ahhh haaaaa not so the judgement was made and given to them...now I ask was it their own judgement or a judgement they were to publish..any thouights

That is very interesting. Could it mean that they were the ones who "executed" or "carried out" the sentence. They don't make the judgment or decision. They carry it out.

BTW -- Another question: Is the Lamb's Book of Life the same as the Book of Remembrance in Malachi?