Yes, you did. And John 11:25,26 calls this a 'resurrection' and that we subsequently 'live'! The same terminology John uses in Rev 20!
"...the dispute lays in the reign of Christ on earth..."
Do I need to remind you ~AGAIN~ that Rev 20 makes no mention that this '1000' year reign in vs 4,5 takes place on earth! None, nada, nichts, zilch, keine! ~NONE~ It is completely read into the text!
Furthermore, there is absolutley ~NO~ N.T. mention of a temporary 1000 year earthly reign. None, nada, nichts, zilch, keine! ~NONE~ There is ~NO~ support in the N.T. for a temporary reign on earth which follows Christ's 2nd coming and preceedes the institution of the New Heavens and the New Earth.
~RATHER~ there is ~AMPLE~, ~CLEAR~, and ~EXPLICIT~ teaching in the N.T. that the earth will be burned up at the time Christ returns in Glory -and ~not~ 1000 years later!
Furthermore, there is absolutley ~no~ O.T. passage which claims a temporary 1000 year reign of Christ on earth ~after~ his second coming and ~before~ he ushers in the New Heavens and the New Earth! ~NONE~ Oh, but there ~will~ be a reign on earth, just not ~this~ earth. It will be on the New Heavens and the New Earth (wherin dwells righteousness) and it will last ~forever~!
"...not that eternity began for each of us on the day of our rebirth"
Actually...it does!
2 Corinthians 6
2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, ~now~ is the accepted time; behold, ~now~ is the day of salvation.)
John 11
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Salvation is ~now~, Mom. For you and for me! Eternitiy ~has~ begun. We shall ~NEVER~ die!
"You are setting up straw men.."
No, I haven't been misrepresenting your view. I have only been attempting to bring you the teaching of the Scriptures. I never said you didn't believe these things. I have only attempted to show you the similarities in these parallel passages.
Mom, 1,2 and 3 John are 'anonymous' works. There is no mention in these passages that John is the author. What is one of the main reasons we attribute these books to John? Because of the similar use of wordings and language.
Likewise, the way John words Rev 20:4,5 is of utmost importance and we can garner meaning -in case of unclarity or dispute- when we see just how the same author uses the same wordings and language. That is why John 5:24,25 and John 11:25,26 are so helpful in these 'disputed' situations. John uses this language in his gospel. In that Gospel account, it is abundantly clear what he refers to. That he, in ch. 11, calls our regeneration a 'resurrection' is no mere coincidence. It has ~everything~ to do with Rev 20:4.
"Jean why would John need a vision of a place he was already at?
This is the book about the "Revelation of Jesus Christ" written by the Apostle John, "who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw." Why ~wouldn't~ it include past events. Wouldn't that give us proper context of the future things John is telling us about?
Or, are you trying to tell me that you are ~PRESUMING~ that this book ~only~ speaks of future events???
If so, what is your basis for this ~ASSUMPTION~?
"Revelation is written for believers not the unsaved...why would they need to know these things if they had already occurred ???"
Really? These believers ~knew~ the entire history of the Christian faith?
Mom, the reason ~they~ need 'to know these things' which 'have already occurred' is for the very same reason ~we~ need to know these things! They are believers, yes, but they did not 'hear or see' the things the way John and the aposltes did nor did they 'handle' our Lord like the apostles did. Are you trying to tell me you have no need to study past historical biblical events now that ~you~ believe?
"What are we watching for Jean?? "
This is the book about the "Revelation of Jesus Christ" written by the Apostle John, "who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw." John's intention is to tell us about Christ. I don't understand your point?
Jean
See the vision
Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.(past tense)
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.
Close of Vision...now the explaination of it end of the vision(again past tense)
Beginning of interpretation
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Future tense
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, future tense
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.Future tense
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. A continuation of the interperation
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
I think we can agree that tis is future tense:>)
I believe it contains past , present (for John ) and future events ..(and you do to as you do believe in the tribilation)