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1 posted on 09/03/2002 5:05:38 PM PDT by petrusv2
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"Let the ultra-traditionalist critics prefer this or that kind of architecture, this or that age or style of song, but so long as the essential elements of the Catholic Mass remain in place, it is a matter of taste, not orthodoxy. "

Yup.

2 posted on 09/03/2002 6:57:25 PM PDT by Theresa
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See Steven Hand defend the NewChurch of Roger Mahony.
3 posted on 09/03/2002 9:09:49 PM PDT by narses
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but so long as the essential elements of the Catholic Mass remain in place, it is a matter of taste, not orthodoxy.

The author could not be more wrong.

Granted, the 'essential elements' are necessary. Taste, however, must be formed in orthodoxy and then deployed. This rather blase remark demonstrates a profound ignorance of the term 'culture,' and the individual should be returned to school for some genuine learning.

14 posted on 09/04/2002 5:52:54 AM PDT by ninenot
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I was right yesterday when I posted on three threads that they were incensing the new altar!!!
19 posted on 09/04/2002 8:01:57 AM PDT by Salvation
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Is anyone but the priest even allowed to incense the altar? I know that the Deacon or altar server will incense the priest and then the faithful after the priest has incensed the altar, but I have never seen anyone but a priest incense the altar.

Bellarmine

31 posted on 09/04/2002 4:14:48 PM PDT by Bellarmine
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What ya cookin' there, sisters? :-)

Sorry I couldn't resist. Looks like they be cookin' in the cathedral.

34 posted on 09/04/2002 7:20:51 PM PDT by Aliska
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Here are some snippets from the LA Times which was quoted IN FULL in the catholic newsgroup:

Norwalk resident Margarita Gonzalez, 68, took a bus, the Green Line train and then the Blue Line to get to the new downtown landmark. The trip from her home to the statue of Mary at the cathedral lasted an hour and 40 minutes. Kneeling before the statue, Gonzalez prayed and dabbed her tears with a tissue. "They say it cost $200 million, and that it was a waste of money," she said. "But really it's all for God. What's $200 million for God?" Many of Tuesday's visitors were as excited and awestruck as the business, civic and political leaders at Monday's dedication liturgy.

and:

One after another, worshipers went up to the statue, crossed themselves and began to touch it, many with tears in their eyes. They rubbed the bronze feet of the suffering savior; they rubbed the flayed and abraded skin. They lingered.

and:

One man carried a plastic grocery bag as he kissed the ring of Cardinal Roger M. Mahony, the archbishop of Los Angeles. An old woman approached the cardinal and wept as he blessed her.

For full article, click here and you can read if you are registered

One poster said it made him want to return to the church after having been gone for 20 years.

There was a picture of the pipe organ and a writeup in our local paper.

35 posted on 09/04/2002 7:41:29 PM PDT by Aliska
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You forget to meantion at the new Cathedral for about $25 you can buy a bottle of Our Lady of the Angels wine in the gift shop or you can buy your own crypt for anywhere from $50,000 to $3 million. And if you want to park in the garage its $12.


39 posted on 09/08/2002 9:37:14 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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