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To: MarMema
Hello Marmema. I see you came to sling some mud.

Your constant criticizing and lambasting of Catholicism with a frequency is unbefitting of true followers of Jesus, and at times resemblles the negative campaigning of democrat politicians.

Why is Catholicism radically different Church than the Orthodox Church? Perhaps it is the the fact that the Orthodox church resmebles a circus that embraces every heretical movement that blows past them. I am not surprised by your utter hatred for the papacy because you are too busy following in the footsteps of previous orthodox into schism.

The Catholic church is the Bride of Christ, whom you have been commanded to obey by Christ Himself. Disobedience to its lawful commands is not a good thing. Our leaders will be judged by God for how well they led, but you and I will be judged for how well we followed.

I’m sure you have all sorts of reasons why the Church has failed. So do the Protestants. I imagine the only difference between you and them is that you would point to old encyclicals and other Church documents like ultima and HDMZ, where the protestants would point to Scripture. Either way, I’m not impressed. My faith is in Jesus Christ, and I believe Him when He says the Church will not fail. I believe that it has been, and continues to be, the pillar and foundation of the truth, which is something I couldn't believe if I thought its sacraments were a fraud.

And so marmema, There is only one Church, and yours isn’t it. Hear the words of St. Augustine:

"Since we are inquiring where the Church of Christ is to be found, let us listen to the words of Christ Himself, who redeemed it with His own blood: “Ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and even in the whole earth.” You see then who it is with whom a man refuses to communicate who will not communicate with this Church, which is spread throughout all the world, if at least you hear whose words these are. For what is a greater proof of madness than to hold communion with the sacraments of the Lord, and to refuse to hold communion with the words of the Lord? Such men at any rate are likely to say, “In Thy name have we eaten and drunken,” and to hear the words, “I never knew you,” seeing that they eat His body and drink His blood in the sacrament, and do not recognize in the gospel His members which are spread abroad throughout the earth, and therefore are not themselves counted among them in the judgment."

56 posted on 09/01/2002 11:54:33 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
Now, now JM get it right. My criticisms are of the pope, this one, the grandstander of all time who oozes vainglory from his very pores and prefers being in the spotlight to cleaning up his own filthy floors at home, and of the modernism which has betrayed your church and is bringing it to its knees.

I liked and respected your church back when you had decent leadership and reverence in your liturgy. In fact I grew up in your church, pre-Vatican 2, back when it was about worshipping God instead of about innovation and little boys as prey.

60 posted on 09/01/2002 12:04:43 PM PDT by MarMema
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