[scottiewottie]

One of the more facinating things about ID is that a creator does not need to be found at all. You can have ID by simple self-existent principles of law and organization that are not created. Rather than a bang, you can have ID with matter that has always existed. No need to invent an origin for wheel, ID simply discovers the wheel that by observation was made out of pre-existent, uncreated matter.

[Aric2000]

Sorry, I have to disagree, BIG time.

ID is creationism in a "scientific" cloak to hide the fact that it is indeed creationism.

Creationism is religious and faith based, the main tenet being that there was a god, supreme being, intelligent designer that created everything.

ID, claiming to be scientifically backed, the main tenet being that there was a god, supreme being, intelligent designer that created everything.

Hmm, that sounds AWFULLY familiar!!!!

Why is that I wonder? maybe because they are the SAME THING!!!

[Physicist]

Rather than a bang, you can have ID with matter that has always existed.

The evidence that matter has existed only for a finite time is far stronger than the evidence for evolution, ID, or any religious creation myth.