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1 posted on 08/20/2002 2:15:59 PM PDT by restornu
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To: PatrickHenry
To Behe
or not to Behe: id est
Behener?
2 posted on 08/20/2002 2:34:48 PM PDT by JesseShurun
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To: PatrickHenry; xzins
Moroni
speaking words of wisdom: The Boyds
or Behes?
3 posted on 08/20/2002 3:13:06 PM PDT by JesseShurun
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Once more, sons of pond scum, into the trenches we go.
4 posted on 08/20/2002 4:07:40 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: restornu
To get this thread off on the right foot, and to avoid endless repetition of ancient material, we provide a very few links from the famous "list-o-links" (so the creationists don't get to start each new thread from ground zero).

01: Site that debunks virtually all of creationism's fallacies. Excellent resource.
02: Creation "Science" Debunked.
03: Creationism and Pseudo Science. Familiar cartoon then lots of links.
04: The SKEPTIC annotated bibliography. Amazingly great meta-site!
05: The Evidence for Human Evolution. For the "no evidence" crowd.
06: Massive mega-site with thousands of links on evolution, creationism, young earth, etc..
07: Another amazing site full of links debunking creationism.
08: Creationism and Pseudo Science. Great cartoon!
09: < b>Glenn R. Morton's site about creationism's fallacies.
11: Is Evolution Science?. Successful PREDICTIONS of evolution.
12: Five Major Misconceptions about Evolution. On point and well-written.
13: Freq uently Asked But Never Answered Questions. A creationist nightmare!
14: DARWIN, FULL TEXT OF HIS WRITINGS. The original ee-voe-lou-shunist.

The foregoing is just a tiny sample. So that everyone will have access to the accumulated "Creationism vs. Evolution" threads which have previously appeared on FreeRepublic, plus links to hundreds of sites with a vast amount of information on this topic, here's Junior's massive work, available for all to review:
The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [ver 19].

5 posted on 08/20/2002 4:10:15 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: restornu
A few more links:
15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense [Scientific American] .
The Smokey Backroom [For heated discussions].
7 posted on 08/20/2002 4:15:53 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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CTR
8 posted on 08/20/2002 4:18:08 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
The system that prevents our blood from clotting is yet another example. Blood clotting consists of a complex cascade of enzymes and cofactors which must be in place to work. The evolutionist’s rebuttal to this is that blood clotting experiments on mice have removed certain enzymes successfully. The Intelligent Design (ID) response is that the mice in the experiment were detrimentally affected by the reduced enzymes; which flies in the face of another evolutionary postulate: the mutated change in an organism must benefit the organism (survival of the fittest after all).

Exactly. That's what drove the evolution of the mice towards the improved, reducible set of enzymes they have now. What's the idea, here?

17 posted on 08/20/2002 5:02:56 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: restornu
The debate between the parties is raging on and may eventaully reach a fervent pitch. Currently, several school boards across the country are examing its validity to determine if they should allow it to be taught in schools.

That's where the "debate" is raging. School boards, churches, and sites like FR. Not in the halls of science, where creation/ID has nothing to offer.

18 posted on 08/20/2002 5:04:35 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: restornu; xzins
While I realize that you mean well, posting these threads is a futile exercise. - In a way it is religious bashing, since evolution is solely a religion which totally rejects objective science, especially mathematics as presented in Pascal's and Bernouli's theorems, and pretty much the entire battery of that most important discipline of science: probability and statistics.

Have you ever read Patrick Henry's catechism of propaganda links presenting supposed 'debunking' of the solid facts of ID? - Is that flimsy crap religion, or what?

Shake the dust off of your sandals at his door, and move on to those who hold to a higher plane; we don't feed filet mignon to the hogs.

54 posted on 08/21/2002 8:12:31 AM PDT by editor-surveyor
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Philip E. Johnson, is a graduate of Harward and the University of Chicago. He was a law clerk for Chief Justice Earl Warren and has taught law for over twenty years at the University of California at Berkeley. Johnson's most prominent contribution has been Darwin on Trial which examines Evolution from a standpoint of sound reasoning and scientific support.

An excellent book. Johnson, a first-rate lawyer, prosecutes the case against evolution theory vigorously. He introduces the various historical arguments for evolution and debunks each in turn.

Although the going is a bit thick at times, I strongly recommend his book.
60 posted on 08/21/2002 9:09:10 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: restornu
We should note that Intelligent Design is a theory just like Evolution is a theory

Intelligent design a 'theory'?

Maybe reality is a 'theory'? LOL!

Thanks for the post!

148 posted on 08/21/2002 11:15:50 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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Making Monkeys Out of Evolutionists

Making Monkeys Out of Evolutionists Wednesday, August 28, 2002 By Cal Thomas

374 posted on 09/06/2002 2:20:26 AM PDT by restornu
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To: RadioAstronomer
CTR
375 posted on 10/02/2002 5:24:47 PM PDT by restornu
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