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I think there are two kinds of liberals, liberals by willful disobedience and liberals by default. It is the latter I refer to. I don't believe most of them are involved in very serious sin. They didn't seem to know that the masses they were attending were irregular; i.e., many deviations from the rubrics. They subscribed to the liberal diocesan newspaper and listened to their priests.

I didn't know there was anything amiss until I started reading the Wanderer and found out there were "rubrics" governing the mass. Then I purchased a the CCC which no one around here seemed to have or recommend. It was only then that I realized a lot of things we were doing were different .

Many of them had adult children who weren't practicing the faith. Some had serious problems. I think adults with catholic children who are into serious sin try to rationalize that all is well or will be well.

For awhile, we had rock masses, charismatic masses, ring around the altar masses, altar girls before Rome acquiesced, charismatic masses, and polka masses. They did do away with the rock masses finally. What you were going to deal with at any given mass was up to the priest who presided at that mass. You could have a perfect mass at 9:00 and a totally different one at 10:30, even at the more conservative parish I transferred to.

I didn't care what kind of mass it was so long as they presented it with reasonable conformity to the rules. Mistakes I overlooked like the time the priest lost his place in the book and did a double consecration.

Some of the other sacraments were administered irregularly like reconciliation and anointing. Most catholics don't know they are victims of priests who don't follow the rules.

"Then I purchased a the CCC which no one around here seemed to have or recommend. It was only then that I realized a lot of things we were doing were different."

I have read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I have, and will continue to, recommend it most highly. If any of you on this thread have NOT read the CCC, you are doing yourselves and the Church a disservice. This is how we allow depredations to go on: by our lack of catechesis and informed decisions. If our formal catechesis was faulty and deficient, then the antidote to that failure is knowledge of what Holy Mother Church really TEACHES. By all means, read it. It is clearly, beautifully and poetically written, and is loaded with copious references and scripural quotations. When you finish it, turn it over and start again. An informed layity is something the predators and wreckovators do NOT want.