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To: ELS
How do you explain a lack of belief in the Real Presence by a majority of Catholics today?
How do you define a lack of belief today? Based on a secular NYTimes poll taken years ago of anyone who called himself a regular Catholic?

What were the questions asked, who was asked, etc.?

And how did the result compare to the result of a similar poll in 1960?

Unless the results of the same questions were better in 1960, there isn’t much to explain.

patent  +AMDG

83 posted on 07/19/2002 1:35:35 PM PDT by patent
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To: patent
I don't think it was a NYT poll. I don't have a photographic memory, but I think it was actually commissioned by the USCCB or some Church-affiliated organizaton.

Have you read Goodbye, Good Men? There are descriptions of the mockeries of the Mass that go on in some seminaries. In one instance, the celebrant of the Mass had some small pieces of the Eucharist on the paten and he proceeded to blow on the paten and send the pieces flying. I guess he didn't believe in the Real Presence. And he was training future priests!

Yes, patent. There really are Catholics who don't believe in the Real Presence. You are certainly free to remain in denial. I'm not debating the exact numbers, just facing the facts. How one prays affects how one believes. How do you explain the large drop in the number of practicing Catholics, the mass exodus of priests and nuns from religious life, and the huge drop in the numbers of seminarians following the change to the New Mass? Coincidence?

90 posted on 07/19/2002 1:54:14 PM PDT by ELS
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