Whatever...Why are you being so rude?
my initial question wasn't to you anyway.Are you suggesting that I cannot reply to you unless you first post to me? Does that standard cut both ways or does it apply to me alone? You have joined into discussions I was having with others, and replied to my posts to them. I hardly think I am out of line to reply to your post.
I am not a lawyer and I don't even play one. I'm sorry I can't express myself well enough to meet your standards.Being a lawyer has nothing to do with it, nor does expressing yourself.
You are sufficiently familiar with math and statistics to know that my criticism is a valid one. If you want to show a real decline in belief in the Real Presence, and then blame that decline on the Novus Ordo or whatever you would like to blame it on, then you need to show an actual decline. You cannot do that by posting one data point.
This point is such a simple one I'm a bit shocked you fight admitting it, it pretty much kills your credibility.
If you are truly interested, I'm sure you can find the info on the Web.I tried. I could not find any pre 1960 stats on belief in the Real Presence. If you can, post them. If not, you should have the good grace to admit you can’t prove an actual decline. based on this.
patent +AMDG
You are looking for physical proof of a spiritual problem. I cannot give that to you. I am heartbroken by what has happened to our beautiful Church. I have read too many details of shocking, horrifying and depressing goings on. Perhaps you and sitetest are right and the situation re: the Eucharist isn't as bad as the survey made it out to be. OTOH, given the rampant dissent and heresy that have been allowed to flourish, it doesn't seem that incredible, either.