[ELS]

patent, I apologize for any offense or pain I have caused you. It is quite apparent to me that we are speaking different "languages." The meaning that I try to communicate it vastly different than the meaning that you receive.

You are looking for physical proof of a spiritual problem. I cannot give that to you. I am heartbroken by what has happened to our beautiful Church. I have read too many details of shocking, horrifying and depressing goings on. Perhaps you and sitetest are right and the situation re: the Eucharist isn't as bad as the survey made it out to be. OTOH, given the rampant dissent and heresy that have been allowed to flourish, it doesn't seem that incredible, either.

[patent]

ELS,

Thanks for the reply.

I am heartbroken by what has happened to our beautiful Church.

I am too, far too many times.

God bless,

patent  +AMDG