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1 posted on 06/28/2002 8:08:06 PM PDT by Polycarp
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I truly hope JPII's Vatican bureaucracy can heal the only schism of his pontificate, the Lefevre schism, before JPII passes from the scene.
2 posted on 06/28/2002 8:09:43 PM PDT by Polycarp
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Williamson is the fly in the ointment. He doesn't want any reunion and has sabotaged everything Fellay has tried.

Don't get your hopes up.

4 posted on 06/28/2002 8:18:13 PM PDT by sinkspur
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I think it would be wonderful. One of my best friends is SSPX and I would love for this to come together. I can understand , to a degree, why they did what they did, they wanted to keep the faith pure. They couldn't bring up their children in churches which were being taught to accept so many things that they think are wrong. The liberals who hid the Tabernacle and turned Mass into a focus on the worshipers instead of Jesus. I also think that they should have stayed and worked from within to restore true Catholicism. It's easy to take your marbles and go home, it takes courage to stay and fight for what is right.
12 posted on 06/28/2002 9:34:57 PM PDT by tiki
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I am no Theologin of the SSPX, so I can not speak on behalf of the Society of Saint PiusX. I do know that they do not reconize themselves as a schism. I know that they are in contact with the Pope and have always looked to him as the head of the Church. I think that one thing that is clear, they do not want to deal with any liberals because they know what they try to do. They just want to try to live on what the church has been. Many of my friends say, "Why change something that was so good." SSPX does not want to leave out any tradition like the importance of the Brown Scapular, concecration a family to the Most Sacred Heart, and the daily reciting of the Rosery.
I think that it would be realy awesome if the Pope would heal this schism. I have not seen the SSPX trying to do harm to souls, but try to make us live a more devout life, and reverence for the Body Blood Soul Divinity of Jesus Christ. That is one reason that I love the society so much. I also think it would be great if more churches would do the indult mass, so that others can experience
the Latin Mass.
Always pray for the spirital petitions of the Pope.
Dominus Vobiscum Et Cum Spiritu tuo
14 posted on 06/28/2002 11:16:45 PM PDT by sspxsteph
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I truly hope JPII's Vatican bureaucracy can heal the only schism of his pontificate, the Lefevre schism, before JPII passes from the scene.

I pray this may come to pass.

15 posted on 06/29/2002 2:19:08 AM PDT by Dajjal
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The viability of the FSSP and other traditional priestly societies is now endangered as the thousands of faithful who have given them financial support, often at the cost of considerable personal sacrifices, did so on the strict understanding that these societies were committed to the exclusive use of the liturgical books in use 1962. Such an understanding is in no way rigid or schismatic, but simply conforms to the clearly expressed wishes of the Sovereign Pontiff in Ecclesia Dei. If this is no longer the case, then many will certainly withdraw their financial support. Is it possible that there are those within the Curia who desire this? What is incontrovertible, is that once protocol 1411 appears in Notitiae, and God forbid that it does, it will appear that the only priestly society whose members are certain use the 1962 liturgical books exclusively is the Fraternity of Saint Pius X. Archbishop Lefebvre withdrew for the 1988 agreement with the Holy See because he felt that the Vatican could not be relied upon to keep its promises. It would appear that there are now powerful forces in the Curia determined to prove that he was right.

From http://www.unavoce.org/violation.htm

48 posted on 06/30/2002 12:01:09 PM PDT by narses
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