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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; junior; longshadow; crevo_list; RadioAstronomer; Scully; Piltdown_Woman...
Probably overkill due to the lead artle, but here's a few links from the famous "list-o-links" (so the creationists don't get to start each new thread from ground zero).

01: Site that debunks virtually all of creationism's fallacies. Excellent resource.
02: Creation "Science" Debunked.
03: Creationism and Pseudo Science. Familiar cartoon then lots of links.
04: The SKEPTIC annotated bibliography. Amazingly great meta-site!
05: The Evidence for Human Evolution. For the "no evidence" crowd.
06: Massive mega-site with thousands of links on evolution, creationism, young earth, etc..
07: Another amazing site full of links debunking creationism.
08: Creationism and Pseudo Science. Great cartoon!
09: Glenn R. Morton's site about creationism's fallacies.
11: Is Evolution Science?. Successful PREDICTIONS of evolution.
12: Five Major Misconceptions about Evolution. On point and well-written.
13: Frequently Asked But Never Answered Questions. A creationist nightmare!
14: DARWIN, FULL TEXT OF HIS WRITINGS. The original ee-voe-lou-shunist.

The foregoing Is just a tiny sample. So that everyone will have access to the accumulated "Creationism vs. Evolution" threads which have previously appeared on FreeRepublic, plus links to hundreds of sites with a vast amount of information on this topic, here's Junior's massive work, available for all to review:
The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [ver 18].

2 posted on 06/17/2002 3:12:42 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
If you don't believe in God, you will NEVER believe anything He says, or did, or is able to do. In order to believe in Creationism, you have to believe in a Creator. If there is a Creator, then He created you, and you are answerable to Him.

People who refuse to be answerable to God, simply choose to believe He is not their Creator.

Phillipians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

5 posted on 06/17/2002 4:06:20 AM PDT by StDonTheBaptist
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To: PatrickHenry
People will go to any lengths to deny the existance of the Creator and the theory of evolution is the prime example. It is not by coincidence that marxists also embrace evolution - in doing this they believe they are not accountable for their actions in life (and hence we see the millions who have died all over the world as a result of marxism). Evolution is a lie and comes from the "father of lies", Satan. I personnally believe in and take comfort in knowing I was created in my "Father's" image and I see evidences of His hand in creation every single day.
8 posted on 06/17/2002 4:29:55 AM PDT by waxhaw
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To: PatrickHenry
Intelligent design offers few answers...

LOL -- How many "answers" do evolutionists need? Wait -- let's summon the Almighty right now to consult with the "scientific" community and have them validate "Intelligent Design".

In the meantime, I'll stoop over a microscope and rest assured that somehow an ameoba is my evolutionary cousin.

11 posted on 06/17/2002 4:46:56 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: PatrickHenry
Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!

Liberal science on the FR...are you nuts!

We need to devolve govt---not evolve it more and more!

15 posted on 06/17/2002 4:56:31 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry; StDonTheBaptist; LadyDoc; AmericaUnited; waxhaw; Gurn
Romans 1:
22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. 24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.

I thought this prophesy was directed at the coming evolutionary assault, but what do I know? I have never claimed to be very wise.

52 posted on 06/17/2002 5:55:02 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: PatrickHenry
15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense [THE FINAL DEBUNKING]

The title says it all...
and reveals the complete and utter self-aggrandizing spirit of those involved in the "debunking."

It is why I normally stay away from these threads.
To argue with those who have placed themselves as God, is to argue with an illusion...

154 posted on 06/17/2002 7:49:47 AM PDT by dubyagee
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To: PatrickHenry
I'm a big believer in evolution, in the sense that God created adaptable creatures that mutate to fit the needs of the preservation of species.

However, notice how weak Scientific American is on the origin of life. The theory of evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life.

I'm sorry, but a rock does not become a plant through natural selection, and if it was so damn easy it would be a high school science project, with kids creating new life forms in the lab.

As easy as it is for weeds to pop up in my lawn, no scientist has been able to make one from inanimate matter.

So here is the reality. Evolution is a feature of the life forms put on this earth by intelligent design. If not for evolution, God would be busy all the time redesigning things.

794 posted on 06/17/2002 8:04:39 PM PDT by magellan
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To: PatrickHenry
You need a new user name. The real Patrick Henry was a CREATIONIST!

Patrick Henry (1736-1799), was an American Revolutionary leader and orator, who spoke the now famous phrase, "Give me Liberty or give me death!" He was Commander-in-Chief of the Virginia Militia, a member of the Continental Congress, a member of the Virginia General Assembly and House of Burgesses as well as having helped to write the Constitution of the State of Virginia. He was the five-time Governor of the State of Virginia, (being the only governor in United States history to be elected and re-elected five times).

Patrick Henry was offered numerous positions by President George Washington and Congress, but declined them all, including: Secretary of State, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, U. S. Minister to Spain, U. S. Minister to France and U. S. Senator.

Prior to the Revolution, in 1768, Patrick Henry rode for miles on horseback to a trial in Spottsylvania County. He entered the rear of a courtroom where three Baptist ministers were being tried for having preached without the sanction of the Episcopalian Church. In the midst of the proceedings, he interrupted: "May it please your lordships, what did I hear? Did I hear an expression that these men, whom you worships are about to try for misdemeanor, are charged with preaching the gospel of the Son of God?"

On March 23, 1775, the Second Virginia Convention had been moved from the House of Burgesses to St. John's Church in Richmond, because of the mounting tension between the Colonies and the British Crown. It was here that Patrick Henry delivered his fiery patriotic oration: "For my own part I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery... It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country... Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt.... An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!.... Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of the means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the Holy cause of Liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.

Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God who presides over the destines of nations; and who will raise up friends to fight our battle for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.... Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

On June 12, 1776, as a member of the committee chosen to draft the first constitution of the commonwealth of Virginia, Patrick Henry helped champion article 16 of the Virginia Bill of Rights: That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and therefore all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity towards each other.

Patrick Henry wrote on the back of The Stamp Act Resolves passed in the House of Burgesses, May, 1765, a summary of the pivotal events preceding the Revolution. He ends with this admonition: "This brought on the war which finally separated the two countries and gave independence to ours. Whether this will prove a blessing or a curse, will depend upon the use our people make of the blessings, which a gracious God hath bestowed on us. If they are wise, they will be great and happy. If they are of a contrary character, they will be miserable. Righteousness alone can exalt them as a nation. Reader! Whoever thou art, remember this, and in thy sphere practice virtue thyself, and encourage it in others."

Patrick Henry boldly declared: "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."

Patrick Henry, once interrupted while engaged in Bible reading, held up his Bible and said: "The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed."

Patrick Henry wrote to his sister Ann in Kentucky, upon learning of the death of her husband, Colonel William Christian: "Would to God I could say something to give relief to the dearest of women and sisters.... My heart is full. Perhaps I may never see you in this world. O may we meet in heaven, to which the merits of Jesus will carry those who love and serve Him. Heaven will, I trust, give you its choicest comfort and preserve your family. Such is the prayer of him who thinks it his honor and pride to be, Your Affectionate Brother, Patrick Henry."

On November 20, 1798, in his Last Will and Testament, Patrick Henry wrote: "This is all the inheritance I give to my dear family. The religion of Christ will give them one which will make them rich indeed."

While Patrick Henry was dying, he spoke: "Doctor, I wish you to observe how real and beneficial the religion of Christ is to a man about to die.... I am, however, much consoled by reflecting that the religion of Christ has, from its first appearance in the world, been attacked in vain by all the wits, philosophers, and wise ones, aided by every power of man, and its triumphs have been complete."

Patrick Henry's grandson, William Wirt Henry, described Henry as one who: "Looked to the restraining and elevating principles of Christianity as the hope of his country's institutions."

Patrick Henry Fontaine, who was also a grandson, said Patrick Henry had committed himself to the: "Earnest efforts to establish true Christianity in our country."

839 posted on 06/17/2002 9:31:45 PM PDT by razorbak
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To: PatrickHenry
of observed or testable natural mechanisms

...our understanding of which has continually changed, mutated, and been disproven throughout human history....

If "we" should have learned ANYTHING AT ALL by now, it's that we don't "know" "anything at all" and what we think we know today will be changed by what we know tomorrow.

Guess that's why God says that the wisdom of man is foolishness to Him....

If we think we "know"...we are but fools!

1,379 posted on 06/19/2002 10:18:47 PM PDT by LoneGreenEyeshade
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To: PatrickHenry
Conclusion

Evidently the evolutionists fear the increasing spread of creationist information, despite their best efforts at censorship. So they are desperate to counteract this information. But their efforts don’t withstand scientific scrutiny, and in the end evolution is admitted to be a deduction from a materialistic belief system. It is philosophy/religion... dressed up---as ‘science’

2,454 posted on 07/11/2002 10:31:08 AM PDT by f.Christian
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