Posted on 06/17/2002 3:10:50 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
As you might gather from my last post, it's because their ancestors at some point were forced to believe at spearpoint.
I'll heartily concede that Christianity is "better for you" than Islam, and many people do make a more-or-less informed decision about which belief system to accept or reject. And both these religions have converted specific peoples, at one time or another in their histories, more thru evangelism than thru force alone.
But the sad fact is that historically both of these huge religions acheived their impressive growth thru State-sanctioned oppression.
(Nice try.)
Take Darwin, substitute cellular engineering for random mutation and substitute cellular engineering and natural culling for natural selection. Stir, use brain, and proceed. Any other questions, wait for the book, "The Death of Darwin". Coming soon.
If I were the only human being still alive tomorrow, would my perception of the color green be invalid because there remained no other human being alive to discern the color green?
Would the color green lose its "greenness" if I were then also to die?
Nope. Just an also ran. He could remain a mesonychus nephew for all it matters.
You don't think all the human sacrafice, cannibalism, headhunting, and debauchery and what not had anything to do with the demise of paganism??
I mean, you can read about pagan rituals in the old testament till the cows come home and it's all the same and, if anything, they'd gotten worse by Christian times. Consider:
I mean, what kind of a rotten SOB is gonna burn his kids alive for the benefit of some stupid stone or wooden idol? Better yet, how is somebody doing that kind of #### gonna be worse off for being converted to Christianity?
Model evolution precisely, replace the words "mutation and natural selection" with "this generation's separate, distinct, and slightly improved version from the Designer" and voila! If anyone asks what your theory explains better, say, "It explains all future observations better!"
If anyone asks what it explains less well, say, "Extinctions."
But history shows it's because the Christians murdered their priests, priestesses, philosophers, etc. as soon as they had the power of the State at their command.
No Christian ever did this. Ever.
You judge by appearances. That is where you fail.
Ah, I see: A Christian is defined as someone who does two things:
That is an airtight definition there, Kevin! :-)
You can substantiate this shocking bit of news? What replaced Paki as the most likely common ancestor of whales and hippos circa 55 mya? Show me the article.
And it's still true that whales didn't used to have walking and amphibious ancestors. Evolution predicted them. They turned up.
| You think people no longer worship Athena, etc., because they made some kind of rational decision. But history shows it's because the Christians murdered their priests, priestesses, philosophers, etc. as soon as they had the power of the State at their command. In other words, they persecuted them even worse than they were persecuted in the previous century. (A Christian in pre-Constantine Rome could legally stay a Christian as long as they rendered a yearly tax unto Caesar's gods like every other Roman citizen and didn't make waves with their proseltyzing. But Constantine's successors murdered the non-Christian intelligencia |
Unlike evolutionists, I can be objective and look to objective science as well as common sense to know that God created all we see and don't see. An evolutionist can't get beyond him/herself and don't believe in God. An atheist could NEVER accept that there is a God and that they inspite of their NUMEROUS hoaxes still can't find the "missing Link". They never will because it doesn't exist. I find it amusing. It's like watching a dog going around in circles chasing its tail. Their logic, if you can all it that, is also circular and defies the very laws of science that they worship. Evolution is good for a few laughs but this thread has me laughing even harder at the lengths an evolutionist will go to villify truth and how the idea of God, scares the crap out of em.
LOL to evolutionists! They are the most illogical emotional people you'll ever meet.
You're dodging the question. Cite the true definition--not the one you made up.
“When its empirical resources are exhausted, science itself closes the door to naturalistic explanation. -William A. Dembski
Once ID is let in to biology we can use it, as any other design theory, to make predictions:
Variability Problem -- What degree of perturbation allows continued functioning? Alternatively, what is the range of variability within which the designed object functions and outside of which it breaks down?
Restoration Problem -- Once perturbed, how can the original design be recovered? Art restorers, textual critics, and archeologists know all about this.
Optimality Problem -- In what sense is the designed object optimal?
Separation of Causes Problem -- How does one tease apart the effects of intelligent causes from natural causes, both of which could have affected the object in question? For instance, a rusted old Cadillac exhibits the effects of both design and weathering?
Intentionality Problem -- What was the intention of the designer in producing a given designed object?
Identity Problem -- Who is the designer? -William A. Dembski
Nope, big rocks from the sky does that quite well, thank you very much.(extinctions that is)
Of course God knew evolutionist wackos would be here today and wanted to give everyone a good laugh, watching them try to explain that one.
Pick a better word if you don't like it.
Do you know why "believes in Christ" is not sufficient?
If you don't know the true definition of a Christian, how can you accuse any "Christian" of these atrocities?
Is this how you do science as well?
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