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To: Matchett-PI; winstonchurchill
And you keep asking questions that were answered in the paper about Luther's teachings that I posted above. Didn't you read it? If so, please re-read it and see if you can find your answer in what Luther taught.

It is very difficult to believe that Calvinists are not aware of their obfuscations. You never answered the questions posted by winstonchurchill, then demand that he find the answers in the non-answers you posted.

Please understand that there are two who are aware of your dissimulation, and you are one of them. The other is not I.

Hank

21 posted on 06/14/2002 8:00:35 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief;winstonchurchill;OrthodoxPresbyterian; Jerry_M; CCWoody; the_doc; theAmbassador...
"It is very difficult to believe that Calvinists are not aware of their obfuscations."

Should obfuscators have a legitimate right to believe that their opinions (especially about who else is an obfuscator) should be taken seriously by intellectually honest people?

You wrote: "You never answered the questions posted by winstonchurchill, then demand that he find the answers in the non-answers you posted."

I was merely emulating Jesus' example:

And the Pharisee said to Jesus, "Why are you doing what is unlawful ...?"

And Jesus (wondering why he was asking a question that he already had the answer to) said, "Have you never read what [was previously written]?". [Luke 6: 2-3]

You con't... "Please understand that there are two who are aware of your dissimulation, and you are one of them. The other is not I."

And the Pharisee said to Jesus: "Please understand that there are two who are aware of your dissimulation, and you are one of them."

Getting back to *the subject* (what Luther believed), he understood that either God is sovereign over all things which comes to pass, or He is not sovereign at all.

If you believe that, would you like to explain how it is possible for God to maintain sovereignty over election yet not over reprobation?

23 posted on 06/15/2002 1:14:36 PM PDT by Matchett-PI
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