Posted on 06/09/2002 5:16:31 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
Maybe jet lag. I thought he might just be new to TV and nervous; maybe not that used to public speaking at all.
True, partly. The dissenters in the Church are actually modernist "liberals" who draw a lot of their inspiration from modern American culture, secular humanism, and the agenda of the social engineering wing of the U.S. Democratic Party. To the extent Catholics in the 1960s got involved in the anti-war and civil rights movements, they adopted the "liberal" style, jargon, attitudes, and behavior. Weakland was indeed a "liberal" in every sense that that word has come to mean in American culture since the 1960s.
Found the following article at the MSNBC web site. It discusses a document that was circulated at a conclave of american bishops, back in the '80's. This answers so many of our questions:
THE BISHOPS WERE being briefed about priests who sexually abuse minors. And a new, internal-eyes-only document was circulating at the highest levels that bore a chilling, simple message: The abuse problem had catastrophic potential.
It had been written, in part, by a canon lawyer, the Rev. Thomas P. Doyle. As the bishops met, two other men with a vital interest in the issue sat on a garden bench nearby. One was Thomas C. Fox, editor of the National Catholic Reporter, which had published a stunning report on abuse only days before. The other was Eugene C. Kennedy, a psychology professor whose exploration of the emotional maturity of priests had presaged the abuse cases.
Yes yes ... more discussion [and activism], less presentation. What a great idea.
I've got two more weeks of engagements and prior commitments and then I can go singleminded on the site for a while.
You either obey the Magisterium or you dissent/disobey them. You either accept the teachings or reject them.
This is me, too. And I don't and have never liked "kumbaya," especially on guitar.
Check this out Do homosexuals make better priests?
There is no major barf alert on the header, but there should be.
An article in National Review mentioned the report a couple of issues back. I understand the way news of it started getting out is because plaintiffs' attorneys found out about it and got a copy. (I'm in Boston -- well placed for news.)
And those qualities are three precious "gifts" that priests can use to "lead people closer to God in prayer," according to the article, written by Rev. James Martin, a Manhattan Jesuit.Our good friends, the Jebbies. I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts this is one of the freaks who celebrate Rainbow Masses for Dignity.
First, the Vatican did step in with the meeting with the Cardinals last month. Cynical explanations aside, I think there are two forces at work: the pope's choice of a collegial, rather than an imperial papal model, which leaves success and failures up to the strengths and weaknesses of local prelates; and second, a near-paralyzing fear of schism which seems to control any matter of episcopal disciplinary action. The pope doesn't want his actions to become the involuntary foundation for a break-away AmChurch.
I think I speak for all of us when I say, "can you please reformulate this part of your sentence?"
Televised? Not to my knowledge. Covered by the media? Possibly; it's likely gonna be an SRO crowd. Our whole parish (±800 people) will probably be there.
Please pray for us.
Yours in Christian Fraternity,
Or a break-away EuroChurch, or LatinoChurch, or AfroChurch.
Or at least an openly break-away AmChurch. I have tried to picture what exactly the pope could do -- remove bishops wholesale? not a bad idea, but the chaos might be uncontrollable; put offending dioceses under interdict? it appeals to me (in some moods), but picture the media storm; issue directives? we've seen how well that works with the 1961 prohibition on admitting homosexuals.
And this pope, at least, is so utterly centered on unity and reconciliation that it always gives me the feeling he knows more than we do, that he thinks there's not enough time left. I think it would truly kill him to cause more division. (How about smack the offending bishops upside the head? I'll volunteer for the team.)
Mouton: The Vatican has been taking the position that this is all new to them. Well Gilbert Gauthe was the very first case in the United States, and they appointed AJ Quinn in writing. AJ Quinn puts the Vaticans fingerprints on this problem in 1985.That year, Ray Mouton and Father Tom Doyle gave Bishop Quinn a confidential report which warned the Church that cases of pedophile priests are arising with increased frequency around the country, and could eventually cost the Church one billion dollars. Mouton and Doyle asked Bishop Quinn to take the report to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
They had a press conference in 1985, at this big meeting they said were gonna establish a committee to study this. I asked one of my contacts in the hierarchy who was on this committee. And he said there is no committee. Its window dressing, says Doyle.
In a nutshell they did nothing, says Doyle.
That was 1985. Tomorrow, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops will finally hold their first national meeting dedicated to the problems Doyle and Mouton urged them to address, 17 years ago.
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