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To: 1 spark
I have HAD IT with "apologies." Has ANY RABBI, in the HISTORY of the WORLD APOLOGISED for the role of some Jews in DEICIDE?

Has ANY RABBI, in the HISTORY of the WORLD APOLOGISED for the HATE LITERATURE ABOUT OUR SAVIOUR AND HIS MOTHER THAT CONSTITUTED PARTS OF THE TALMUD?

I still don't know how it is possible to "apologise" for the errors commited by those LONG DEAD. I am too dull to grasp how that is done.

Well, at least the Jews, apparently , are pleased, and, after all, isn't that what is important - that they "approve" of Catholic Theological Texts?

9 posted on 05/14/2002 11:08:57 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
I still don't know how it is possible to "apologise" for the errors commited by those LONG DEAD. I am too dull to grasp how that is done.

While I don't care for the tone of your post (no offense intended), I heartily agree with your thoughts on apologizing for the wrongs of others and am quite bewildered as to what, other than prostration before the court of public opinion, it accomplishes.

It used to bug the heck out of me when such a flawed individual as our former Commander in Chief would jet around apologizing for the failings of those in the past, his own failings dangling in front of him for everyone to see. I hope someone can enlighten me on just what is (truly) gained by such posturing.

14 posted on 05/14/2002 11:20:40 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: Catholicguy
I have HAD IT with "apologies." Has ANY RABBI, in the HISTORY of the WORLD APOLOGISED for the role of some Jews in DEICIDE?

I think we Jews have been punished enough by y'all for this, don't you?

It is worth noting further that it was the Romans who executed Jesus, not the Jews.

Additionally, for it to be "deicide", God would have to die. Jews of course do not accept that Jesus was God in the first place, so from our perspective his death could not be deicide. And the very idea of God dying is fraught with existential difficulties.

Has ANY RABBI, in the HISTORY of the WORLD APOLOGISED for the HATE LITERATURE ABOUT OUR SAVIOUR AND HIS MOTHER THAT CONSTITUTED PARTS OF THE TALMUD?

Well, at least you don't call it "blasphemy". There are parts of the Talmud that are critical of Jesus and Mary. Does this surprise you? It repeats rumors about them that were extant during the first centuries of the Christian movement (look up Origen's Contra Celsus). Certainly it is no worse in content, and far less in sheer volume, than the anti-Jewish writings of the church, from the gospel of John to the writings of the church fathers (John Chrysostom, notably).

It is hysterical fulminations such as yours which lead to popes having to apologize for the behavior of Catholics.

18 posted on 05/14/2002 3:26:52 PM PDT by malakhi
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