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To: CCWoody

God is a Being of infinite worth.
I agree

When man transgresses against God, he is committing a transgression of infinite magnitude.
I agree

When a Being of intinite worth makes a Propitiation for a man, he is making a transaction of infinite value.
I agree

Because by one man all were made transgressors by one Man all can be restored.
I agree

Election is determined by the Father.
I disagree


NIV 2 Peter 1:10-11
 10.  Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall,
 11.  and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

It seemed obvious to Peter (first Pope?) that there was SOMETHING man had to do to be elected fully, otherwise he would NOT have written this!

The Son is willing to save ALL whom the Father gives to the Son.
I agree -- (Especially if the statement was, "The Son is willing to save ALL"

Thus, the nature of the Atonement is such that it is sufficient for all the sins of the whole world, but effective only for the elect.
I agree, if by 'the elect' you mean those who choose Christ willingly.


117 posted on 05/08/2002 9:59:38 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Elsie
Election is determined by the Father.
I disagree

Disagree all you want. Just know you disagree with the scriptures.

Now, the verse you quoted in Peter does not establish that election is determined by man for this would set Peter to war with John. Peter merely encourages those who believe they are saved.
156 posted on 05/08/2002 8:20:42 PM PDT by CCWoody
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