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To: DouglasKC; RnMomof7; CCWoody
"Having freewill that is freewill, but only within the choices set out by God isn't freewill at all."

Huh?

What is there that is not only within the choices set out by God?

If we believe that we live in a universe that has been ordered by God, and established in accordance with His dicates, then aren't all of our choices set out by God? We do not live in a world of our own making, we didn't even choose into which part of that world, or at what time, or from what parents, etc. etc. etc. that we would be born.

Just what type of freewill are you seeking? One that is divorced from the reality of your existence?

Once again, non-Calvinists show us that they cherish a freewill that not even God possesses, since not even He can operate independent of His existence.

146 posted on 05/07/2002 6:34:42 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: Jerry_M
Having freewill that is freewill, but only within the choices set out by God isn't freewill at all."
Huh?
What is there that is not only within the choices set out by God?
If we believe that we live in a universe that has been ordered by God, and established in accordance with His dicates, then aren't all of our choices set out by God? We do not live in a world of our own making, we didn't even choose into which part of that world, or at what time, or from what parents, etc. etc. etc. that we would be born. Just what type of freewill are you seeking? One that is divorced from the reality of your existence?

Sorry, bad choice of words, especially when pulled out of context. The point I was trying to make was that we have the free will to accept or deny God. God doesn't make us "choose" any option put before us.

I'll try to be more accurate in my wording in the future.

151 posted on 05/07/2002 6:48:01 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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