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To: Jerry_M
Having freewill that is freewill, but only within the choices set out by God isn't freewill at all."
Huh?
What is there that is not only within the choices set out by God?
If we believe that we live in a universe that has been ordered by God, and established in accordance with His dicates, then aren't all of our choices set out by God? We do not live in a world of our own making, we didn't even choose into which part of that world, or at what time, or from what parents, etc. etc. etc. that we would be born. Just what type of freewill are you seeking? One that is divorced from the reality of your existence?

Sorry, bad choice of words, especially when pulled out of context. The point I was trying to make was that we have the free will to accept or deny God. God doesn't make us "choose" any option put before us.

I'll try to be more accurate in my wording in the future.

151 posted on 05/07/2002 6:48:01 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
"The point I was trying to make was that we have the free will to accept or deny God. "

And what would you say if I told you that I agree with this statement?

We do have the "freewill" to accept or deny God. We are free to do exactly as we want in this regard. However, none of us will ever choose to accept Him, or do any act pleasing to Him, except that He first give us new hearts that want to do so. There are none righteous, no not one, there are none who seek Him. We need to be born again.

158 posted on 05/07/2002 7:01:01 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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