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To: P-Marlowe
Is it me, or are some of our local "Calvinists" really "Hyper-Calvinists?"

Actually, PM, it is more conceivable that many of the Arminians on this thread are rather hyper-Calvinistic in that they never ever share the gospel with the lost on these threads nor do they warn them nor can they even properly name the gospel (5 words BTW) or express the gospel (exactly 3 words BTW) much less actually preach the gospel.

You will find, though, that the Calvinist on these threads are very vocal in their comminication to the lost.

8 posted on 05/03/2002 6:55:18 AM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody; Jerry_M; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; rdb3; Jean Chauvin; Wrigley
I recently asked one of your "Calvinist" people whether or not God loves only the elect (and HATES everyone else)? I was answered with the "Jacob I loved and Esau I hated" verse. I then asked them whether or not they loved their lost and departed freinds and relatives more than God did, and whether God could possibly send someone he "loved" to hell, and that person refused to answer.

This article says that God loves EVERYONE, elect and unelect. And that God also HATES the sinful state of everyone elect and unelect. Gee I agree. What 's wrong with this picture? Is the author wrong?

So if you think God loves only the elect, then according to this author you are a Hypercalvinist. I have often quoted J. Vernon McGee as someone I agree with almost all the time. I have been told by members of the Calvinist clique here that J. Vernon McGee is not a "real" Calvinist, but some kind of Calmanian. However McGee is listed on several Calvinist sites as an example of a "famous" Calvinist along with Spurgeon and John MacArthur.

My objections to Calvinism are mostly in regard to the things I see are listed here as examples of Hyper-Calvinism. So what is it? Are you guys in agreement with the author here? Or is the author some kind of heretic like me?

12 posted on 05/03/2002 7:16:52 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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