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To: winstonchurchill
An excellent article. I am not at all sure I see a hairs-breadth difference between what the author calls "hyper-Calvinists" and the the FR "Calvinists".

Actually, I cannot even see a hair's breadth of difference between the Hyper-Calvinist and the FR Arminians as far as the actual application of their doctrine.


18 posted on 05/03/2002 9:26:57 AM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody; Corin Stormhands; fortheDeclaration; Winston Churchill; ShadowAce
FR Arminian denies to preach the gospel as a Free Offer

By this man's definition, the calvinists you frequently ping are hyper-calvinists. One mark mentioned above is the belief that regeneration precedes faith and repentance (or words to that effect.)

I don't think that the so-called witnessing that takes place on these threads when an occasional lurker wanders onto a thread can be proof that one is not a hyper-Calvinist, given that not witnessing is not the definition of hyper-Calvinism. (As you say, some witness just because of a command to do so.) Besides, to me, most of the so-called witnessing appears to be constant, unloving browbeating, verbal/emotional abuse, and ridicule.

The gospel is the news that God intends for everyone to avail themselves through faith of their blood-bought salvation in Jesus Christ. The awakening and convicting works are the responsibility of the Holy Spirit.

That, of course, is a Wesley-Arminian perspective.

The hyper-Calvinist view is that being "born again" takes place before one becomes a believer.

25 posted on 05/03/2002 10:19:37 AM PDT by xzins
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